[EricB]

Originally posted by Grayfox
I just noticed that massive lack of information of the subject of trusted computing in this thread and I must say its rather disturbing to see that so many of you are ignoring such a serious subject.

For those of you who don't know trusted computing will be shipping with windows vista.


The company's want to take away your rights you have no control

The only programs you will be able to run will have to be signed by Microsoft. Effectively eliminating free software on the windows platform, stopping little timmy from learning how to program and giving Microsoft total control over the market.


For more information check out these links

http://www.lafkon.net/tc/ A very effective video at explaining what trusted computing is and how it works

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
http://www.againsttcpa.com/
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

I get laugh at when I even suggest that it happens

[Osiris]

Windows Vista Build 5365 will be released to official testers via MS Connect this Monday. This build is an Interim build which will include several bug fixes and some UI changes. Further changes are also to be expected in Internet Explorer's UI, as well as better driver support and some optimizations to make Aero Glass run more smoothly.

Media Center also supposedly has a better, more refined look and runs much more smoothly. Improvements to the Sidebar are expected, with more gadgets and bugs fixed on existing gadgets. Installation may also may finish more quickly in this build. The build is expected to be released around 1:00 PM EST Time.

[Osiris]

With any major new Windows release such as Vista, application compatibility becomes a critical concern for businesses and individuals considering an upgrade. No matter how much Microsoft promotes the new version, users aren't going to make the switch unless their applications continue to function seamlessly.

In turn, Microsoft has long offered an Application Compatibility Toolkit (ACT), which checks what programs are installed on a system and detects any potential conflicts. The Redmond company is preparing version 5 of the software to be ready by the time Windows Vista ships later this year, and has included a number of new features.

ACT 5.0 most notably will have to take into account the limited user privileges in Windows Vista that are designed to keep the operating system core safe from malware. Internet Explorer 7 will also run in a protected mode, potentially disrupting applications that interact with the browser.

[Mak213]

In case anyone hasnt heard the announcement about the build being released Monday, it was a crock. There was no build Released on Monday. Testers were only told to get prepared for a release soon. They jumped the gun thinking it owuld be Monday.

[snakemaster]

Wel, I believe I'll wait till all the bugs are worked out of Longhorn before I think about putting it on my systems.

[Osiris]

Once again Paul Thurrott has put out another review of Windows Vista. However, this time Paul Thurrott voices his concerns about the darker side of Vista.

The side of Vista that really makes you wonder what the heck Microsoft was doing the past few years since PDC 2003. Here is a snippet from Paul Thurrott's site regarding MicrosoftÂ’s Windows Vista 'User Account Protection':

The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature that Microsoft has ever added to any software product, and yes, that includes that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.

The problem with UAP is that it throws up an unbelievable number of warning dialogs for even the simplest of tasks. That these dialogs pop up repeatedly for the same action would be comical if it weren't so amazingly frustrating.

It would be hilarious if it weren't going to affect hundreds of millions of people in a few short months. It is, in fact, almost criminal in its insidiousness.

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/...ta_5308_05.asp

[Mak213]

Yet that can be disabled. I figured Paul who is supposted to be on M$ "Good Side" would know this and explain about it.

[Osiris]

It's been a long journey for testers this past 2 weeks, with rumours coming out everyday about different dates of when the build would be released all of which were eventually proven to be fake. Although this time, it's not fake at all, Windows vista build 5365 has now been released on Microsoft Connect for testers.

The build is marked as 5365.winmain_idx05.060419-1800 is expected to have several updates. Many that have been confirmed include changes to the UAP (User Account Protection) within Vista, also noted are new Gadgets and new Visual content such as wallpapers and Display pictures.

The build is available for both 32 and 64 bit processors, The beta program managers are encouraging all 64 bit users to upgrade to this new build due to better compatibility. Downloading this beta might be somewhat of a nightmare for Dial-Up or light DSL users, the total file size for this build is marked just over 3GB at 3,098MB. For activation, your current 5342 keys will do just fine. No new keys have been released and we are being told to use our current keys.

We cannot release any information on other new features as of yet as we have yet to install this new build however it is currently downloading. On that note, the Connect servers seem to be running very well and downloads are stable.

Download

[Mak213]

Yeah i have heard about this. It has already leaked also.

[tommyboy123x]

when i try to download, the url freaks out and says that there was a server error... anyone else?