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Old 11-02-2009, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Trying to figure out why I'm getting "Access Denied" here...

Ongoing more and more into the insane headaches involved with figuring out a solution to iron out default profiles with Windows 7 to grasp any glimpse of hope of utilizing Microsoft's latest operating system in a mass production environment with the idea of (someday) actually upgrading from XP Professional, I have ran into another (weird) issue in Windows 7.

I have added several local users to the system to test different profile strategies with. Along with that, I have the default "Administrator" account activated and I'm logged into that account. Administrator has the profile set up the way that I want it, with desktop icons, background image, printers, program settings, etc. Okay, fine. I thought maybe there was an issue with my accounts not being able to access the data properly. So, I decided to add "user" to have full control of the "Administrator" profile. Naturally, I got an access denied. Because after all, I'm an administrator and shouldn't be able to do that - right?....

Further adding to the issue, it also seems that even though "administrator" and "user" are listed as "administrators" that they still are noted as standard users in the system. In the menu where it blatantly has my accounts listed, it says Administrator, with "Administrator" below it, along with User, with "Administrator" below it. Yet when I double click the icon for the account, it says standard user. When I try to add them as Administrator, the option to apply immediately gets grayed out. Which begs the obvious question, is that where my problem above lies? Which begs another obvious question: Why?

I guess more or less I expected to be able to actually make security changes since I was logged in as an administrator, but even then I get access denied.

Where's sudo chmod when you need it...
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...Where's sudo chmod when you need it...
Sorry to hear about the troubles, but I lol'd on that last part.
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Sorry to hear about the troubles, but I lol'd on that last part.
LOL. Yeah, I didn't mean to be a ******** about it, but it's frustrating to see that I'm an administrator and be unable to do a simple task. I'm sure there's a valid explanation for it, but even still, I feel like I'm beating my head against the wall at times.
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What do you mean "default" Administrator account? The one that is created with the install or the hidden one? Did you already over write the "Default" folder with the profile information? Before you copied the profile information over to the "Default" user folder did you make sure to edit the security settings to add it to the Admin User group?

I am betting that is where the problem is. It is using the Default profile folder like you want, but since it is not part of the Admin User Group you cant do what you want. This is why the trick you use there for just copying over the folders is not working righ in Vista/Win7 cause of the different tiers and use of Security in the newer OS's. It goes beyond just the simple label on the account. There is also permissions that have to be adjusted as well.
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Mak - I completely understand, but the thing that's frustrating is I'm not using my old school method of copying the default profile in Vista and 7. I know how different they are and I know they react differently.

Problem is, when I use the guide specifically for Vista and specifically for 7 and I log in, a temp profile gets created because the profiles corrupt themselves.

I'm away from that particular computer at the moment (I'm in a different building all together) but I'll check the permissions and whatnot. If that's what it is, there needs to be a serious documentation overhaul with Microsoft - because nothing permissions wise was suggested in any of the 80 guides I read.
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