I Know, I am Sorry

Indobos · 07-12-2007, 05:36 PM

Okay so I have gotten many responses and have asked for build info recently. This is going to be my first build and I have had great response from everyone. But it would seem that my wife backed out of sharing a PC so i don't need vista. I want to build a High performance Gaming PC. Here is the kicker. I can now only spend $600 us dollars since my wife says we dont need one. Anyways. I don't think I want to do any overclocking since I am concerned with Heat and malfunctions. Once again if this breaks down or sees any downtime I will hear those Infamouse words "I TOLD YOU SO!" So I am again asking for the highest performer I can get for the above stated amount without having to overclock or do anything that may cause premature wear and tear. Either intel or AMD but I will need everything PS, Mobo, Proc, Vid card, No sound though, memory hard drive and DVD/cd player and OS. Please help, again. Thanks. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Invisible · 07-12-2007, 06:34 PM

oo..tight budget
PSU
Newegg.com - Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, FCC - Retail
Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, FCC - Retail
Cost: $33 after MIR

MOBO
XFX MB-N650-IUL9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i Ultra ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - XFX MB-N650-IUL9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i Ultra ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Cost: $70 after MIR

Proc
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
Cost: $165

Memory
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Cost: $90

Hard Drive
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Cost: $53

DVD Drive
Newegg.com - ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail
Cost: $20
OS
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Basic for System Builders Single Pack CD - OEM
Vista 32-bit Basic
Cost: $95

Vid Card
Newegg.com - EVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail
EVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail
Cost: $105 after MIR

total comes out to be about $650
hope this helps

Indobos · 07-12-2007, 07:03 PM

Okay I know what I said but screw it. Is this an okay build? Like I said in previouse posts I got that newegg card no payments for 6 months and I will get the money with a bonus or my usual tax return. So for say 1k is this worth it or what would you recommend. I apppreciate the searching you did for me invisible considering my request but it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for approval. So I am going for it.

Any upgrades or changes. I am going to order as soon as I can so I will wait a bit for some input. But would like to order before Friday. Thanks all again.

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106055
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$31.99

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$40.00 Mail-in Rebate
$139.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148140
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
$79.99

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130082
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 1 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $49.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $59.99 3 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $59.99
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$279.99

Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817182044
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
-$10.00 Instant
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate
$57.99
$47.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy

$5.99

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128050
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99
$129.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6420 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115016
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99
$186.00

Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116202
Return Policy: Software Return Policy

$111.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835186134
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$34.99

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99
-$40.00 Instant
$129.99
$89.99

Beefcake · 07-12-2007, 07:07 PM

I don't know how much you can stretch but get something similar to Invisible's build, but you may consider dropping the 2GB to 1GB, and get this (link below) instead of the 7900GS.

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail

Performs either better or just as good as a 7950GT. You will get better performance out of the X1950XT with 1GB than you would with a 7900GS w/ 2GB. Of course you can always order another stick of ram and move it to 2GB very easily with no money loss(like you would upgrading your GPU).

So that would put you over $600, but I think it's worth it ($600 is a pretty tight budget). Not to sure about what motherboard, haven't stayed on top of that after I bought my build.

EDIT:

Well that new build is fine I think. (posted this before you changed your mind)

Invisible · 07-13-2007, 02:16 AM

dont get the 7950...
i was thinkin about the xt but then i remembered how good vista runs on 1 gb

Beefcake · 07-13-2007, 02:54 AM

Forgot he's getting Vista. I'm happy with XP, and while DX10 is nice, not enough games use it right now to justify buying Vista.

And XP Pro SP2 didn't cost me anything, if you know what I mean

Bot2011 · 07-13-2007, 08:23 AM

No need to get the AS 5 thermal compound if you are getting the AF7 Pro. The AF7 Pro comes with a MX-1 Thermal Pad which is more than sufficient. No need to spend the extra money (yes I know its only $6 but its wasted cash) when the retail AF7 Pro comes with the MX-1 Pad.

Also if you can hold off until 22 July you can pickup the new e6750 which is going to be a killer overclocker. If not than the e6420 will be a very nice alternative.

The 8800gts 320mb card will be very nice card for quite a while.

Other than those 2 recommendations I think its a very good build overall.

murdocsvan · 07-13-2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invisible

dont get the 7950...
i was thinkin about the xt but then i remembered how good vista runs on 1 gb

are you having a laugh? 1 GB of ram on vista is the BARE MINIMUM. its well worth the investment in a second stick otherwise its just plain slow. with 1 Gb of ram i found i had to turn off ALL effects before i could play half life 1 smoothly on full settings... and thats on a Geforce 7300 GS!

07-12-2007, 05:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Indobos Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 287	I Know, I am Sorry Okay so I have gotten many responses and have asked for build info recently. This is going to be my first build and I have had great response from everyone. But it would seem that my wife backed out of sharing a PC so i don't need vista. I want to build a High performance Gaming PC. Here is the kicker. I can now only spend $600 us dollars since my wife says we dont need one. Anyways. I don't think I want to do any overclocking since I am concerned with Heat and malfunctions. Once again if this breaks down or sees any downtime I will hear those Infamouse words "I TOLD YOU SO!" So I am again asking for the highest performer I can get for the above stated amount without having to overclock or do anything that may cause premature wear and tear. Either intel or AMD but I will need everything PS, Mobo, Proc, Vid card, No sound though, memory hard drive and DVD/cd player and OS. Please help, again. Thanks. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

07-12-2007, 06:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Invisible MetalHead Techie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,891	Re: I Know, I am Sorry oo..tight budget PSU Newegg.com - Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, FCC - Retail Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Dual 8cm Ball Bearing Fan Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, FCC - Retail Cost: $33 after MIR MOBO XFX MB-N650-IUL9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i Ultra ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Newegg.com - XFX MB-N650-IUL9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i Ultra ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Cost: $70 after MIR Proc Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail Cost: $165 Memory Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail Cost: $90 Hard Drive Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Cost: $53 DVD Drive Newegg.com - ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail Cost: $20 OS Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Basic for System Builders Single Pack CD - OEM Vista 32-bit Basic Cost: $95 Vid Card Newegg.com - EVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail EVGA 256-P2-N624-AR GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO Video Card - Retail Cost: $105 after MIR total comes out to be about $650 hope this helps __________________ Proc e2180 m0 @ stock Video 8800gt 512mb Display 22'' Monitor Chemei 5ms RT, 800:1 CR Mobo Abit ip35-e Mem Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1 gb DDR2 800 @ 960 Case NZXT Zero ATX Aluminum Full Tower + 8 silent fans- 7 x 120mm 1 x 80mm Sound Logitech z-5300e 5.1 + Icemat siberia full black headset + Creative Soundblaster Audigy SE PSU Corsair 520hx OS Vista 64-Bit Home Premium Cooling Stock fan, mx-2 (left backplate from tuniq when RMA'd board) HDD Seagate 500gb 32mb Cache -92% of teens have moved on to rap. If you are part of the 8% who still listen to real music, copy this. Last edited by Invisible; 07-12-2007 at 06:38 PM.

07-12-2007, 07:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Indobos Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 287	Re: I Know, I am Sorry Okay I know what I said but screw it. Is this an okay build? Like I said in previouse posts I got that newegg card no payments for 6 months and I will get the money with a bonus or my usual tax return. So for say 1k is this worth it or what would you recommend. I apppreciate the searching you did for me invisible considering my request but it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for approval. So I am going for it. Any upgrades or changes. I am going to order as soon as I can so I will wait a bit for some input. But would like to order before Friday. Thanks all again. LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM Item #: N82E16827106055 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $31.99 Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Item #: N82E16811129021 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $40.00 Mail-in Rebate $139.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Item #: N82E16822148140 Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99 $79.99 EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail Item #: N82E16814130082 Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 1 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $39.99 2 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $49.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $59.99 3 Year Service Net 1 Peripheral Extended Plan -- $59.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate $279.99 Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2-DB ATX V2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail Item #: N82E16817182044 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99 -$10.00 Instant $15.00 Mail-in Rebate $57.99 $47.99 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM Item #: N82E16835100007 Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy $5.99 GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Item #: N82E16813128050 Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 $129.99 Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6420 - Retail Item #: N82E16819115016 Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 $186.00 Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM Item #: N82E16832116202 Return Policy: Software Return Policy $111.99 ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail Item #: N82E16835186134 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $34.99 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail Item #: N82E16820231098 Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.99 2 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 -$40.00 Instant $129.99 $89.99 Last edited by Indobos; 07-12-2007 at 07:43 PM. Reason: Added Memory

07-12-2007, 07:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Beefcake Monster Techie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 1,857	Re: I Know, I am Sorry I don't know how much you can stretch but get something similar to Invisible's build, but you may consider dropping the 2GB to 1GB, and get this (link below) instead of the 7900GS. Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail Performs either better or just as good as a 7950GT. You will get better performance out of the X1950XT with 1GB than you would with a 7900GS w/ 2GB. Of course you can always order another stick of ram and move it to 2GB very easily with no money loss(like you would upgrading your GPU). So that would put you over $600, but I think it's worth it ($600 is a pretty tight budget). Not to sure about what motherboard, haven't stayed on top of that after I bought my build. EDIT: Well that new build is fine I think. (posted this before you changed your mind) __________________

07-13-2007, 02:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Invisible MetalHead Techie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,891	Re: I Know, I am Sorry dont get the 7950... i was thinkin about the xt but then i remembered how good vista runs on 1 gb __________________ Proc e2180 m0 @ stock Video 8800gt 512mb Display 22'' Monitor Chemei 5ms RT, 800:1 CR Mobo Abit ip35-e Mem Crucial Ballistix 2 x 1 gb DDR2 800 @ 960 Case NZXT Zero ATX Aluminum Full Tower + 8 silent fans- 7 x 120mm 1 x 80mm Sound Logitech z-5300e 5.1 + Icemat siberia full black headset + Creative Soundblaster Audigy SE PSU Corsair 520hx OS Vista 64-Bit Home Premium Cooling Stock fan, mx-2 (left backplate from tuniq when RMA'd board) HDD Seagate 500gb 32mb Cache -92% of teens have moved on to rap. If you are part of the 8% who still listen to real music, copy this.

07-13-2007, 02:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
Beefcake Monster Techie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 1,857	Re: I Know, I am Sorry Forgot he's getting Vista. I'm happy with XP, and while DX10 is nice, not enough games use it right now to justify buying Vista. And XP Pro SP2 didn't cost me anything, if you know what I mean __________________

07-13-2007, 08:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bot2011 Super Techie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 267	Re: I Know, I am Sorry No need to get the AS 5 thermal compound if you are getting the AF7 Pro. The AF7 Pro comes with a MX-1 Thermal Pad which is more than sufficient. No need to spend the extra money (yes I know its only $6 but its wasted cash) when the retail AF7 Pro comes with the MX-1 Pad. Also if you can hold off until 22 July you can pickup the new e6750 which is going to be a killer overclocker. If not than the e6420 will be a very nice alternative. The 8800gts 320mb card will be very nice card for quite a while. Other than those 2 recommendations I think its a very good build overall. __________________ Case Antec Nine Hundred PSU Corsair 620HX Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R CPU E6550 Cooling Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro RAM Crucial Ballistix (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Hard Disk (x2) Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA (RAID1) Graphics EVGA 8800GTS 320mb Monitor SAMSUNG 216BW Black 21.6" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor Optical Sony NEC Optiarc DVD/RW OS Windows XP-SP2

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