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| AMD Gamer, only! | reason i ask is because ever since the 7950 GX2 came out, that was the last time specs about a graphics card that told how many pixel pipelines it had, which is 48. now a days with newer graphics cards, it's measured in shader processors which confuses me how many pixel pipelines it even has anymore. Why do all the manufactures measures their pixel "power" in shader processors instead of pixel pipelines? More accurate? Society changed it for us to believe this is a better understanding? i have always thought that the higher pixel pipelines, the better n ever since the HD 2900 XT came out with 320, i thought it was good to have more, but learned that the bandwidth matters, not the # of shader processors. since everyone is measuring pixels in # of shader processors, how is this measure to find out how many pixel pipelines or vice versa the newer graphics cards have? i need the education so teach me plz , thx
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| AMD Gamer, only! | ok........doesnt really answer my questions but at least u guys responded back.
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| Just forget about pixel pipelines, they are noting. There is some thing called pixel shader units, TMU (texture mapping units), ROP (render output pipelines) and vertex shader units The more pixel shader units you have, the more pixel shader operation you have The more vertex shader units you have, the more vertex shader operation you have The more TMU you have, the more texture fill-rate you have. The more ROP, the more pixel fill-rate you have. .................................. In newer cards there is something called Unified Shaders, and the difference is that Unified Shader can do both pixel shader and vertex shader operations
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question though, if this is true, then y is the HD 2900 XT benchmarks not always better then the 8800 GTS 640mb or 320mb? The HD 2900 XT has 320 shader processors which is 2-3 times more then both 8800 GTS cards. From what i read, something with the "bandwidth" makes the 8800 GTS better then HD 2900 XT, probably because its higher then the HD 2900 XT. I dont understand it too well, mind if u explain this to me plz?
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There might be other reasons, but this is the only thing that I know. EDIT: I also found a post from other forum that explains to you why the 320 stream processors in HD2600XT is not similar to the 128 stream processor in GTX The post can be found here 8800 GTX vs. HD 2900 XT - SLI Zone Forums And I will quote the post here Quote:
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