Cache vs. Frequency

kpmwrestler · 01-30-2008, 09:57 PM

I am looking at two processors:

AMD Athlon x2 5400 with 2.80GHz, 2 x 512KB Cache
AMD Athlon x2 5200 with 2.60GHz, 2MB Cache

Is operating frequency or cache more important?

Poizen22 · 01-30-2008, 10:19 PM

the 5200 would be faster, especially since you could easaly over clock to the speed of the 5400+, if i where you i would buy a 5000+ be.

kpmwrestler · 01-30-2008, 10:46 PM

Is a 5000+ better?

kpmwrestler · 01-30-2008, 10:49 PM

or is it something special about black edition with 2x512kb that beats a 5200 with 2x1mb

Poizen22 · 01-30-2008, 11:01 PM

the 5000+ be has an unlocked multiplier, meaning you dont need to raise the fsb to increase the clock speed, and its 65nm so itl over clock alot farther the the 5200+

vernong1992 · 01-31-2008, 06:40 AM

the cache is usually just affects Video Encoding speeds for a normal user, but get the 5000+ BE instead of both of those

maroon1 · 01-31-2008, 06:59 AM

Note: Brisbane is slightly slower than a similar clocked Windsor, even if both have the same cache

5000+ Brisbane and 5000+ Windsor, both have the same clock speed and cache. Yet the Brisbane version performs slightly slower than the Windsor, thats because the Brisbane chip have higher latencies in the cache than Windsor

AMD's 65nm L2 cache looks to be slower - The Tech Report

Poizen22 · 01-31-2008, 01:32 PM

ya but the 65nm 5000+ will oc very very far.

LeftEyeBlind · 01-31-2008, 01:37 PM

How far?

Poizen22 · 01-31-2008, 01:46 PM

3.4 easy, 3.6 or more if your good.

01-30-2008, 09:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 490	Cache vs. Frequency I am looking at two processors: AMD Athlon x2 5400 with 2.80GHz, 2 x 512KB Cache AMD Athlon x2 5200 with 2.60GHz, 2MB Cache Is operating frequency or cache more important? __________________ Torvalds was contemptuous of Microsoft's claims and has asked Redmond to name the patent infringements so that their veracity can be challenged and workarounds found. "Naming them would either make it clear that Linux is not infringing at all (which is quite possible, especially if the patents are bad), or would make it possible to avoid infringing by coding around whatever silly thing they claim," "So the whole 'We have a list and we're not telling you' should tell you something. Don't you think that if Microsoft actually had some really foolproof patent, they'd just tell us and go, 'nyaah, nyaah, nyaah!'?" whole story here: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-microsoft-put

01-30-2008, 10:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Poizen22 former amd gt player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,735	Re: Cache vs. Frequency the 5200 would be faster, especially since you could easaly over clock to the speed of the 5400+, if i where you i would buy a 5000+ be. __________________ cpu-q6600 3.6 lapped 38 c idle 51c load 1.368v -mobo 750iftwpencil modded -gpu g92 8800gts ram-1x2gb rendition value ram ddr800 4-4-4-12 crucial on rma-psu 600w silverstone strider-160gb caviar drive+ 160gb wd mybook external-lg dvd rw x3-nzxt apollo-tuniq tower 15982 3d marks in 06. liquid loop coming soon. sli coming soon.

01-30-2008, 10:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 490	Re: Cache vs. Frequency Is a 5000+ better? __________________ Torvalds was contemptuous of Microsoft's claims and has asked Redmond to name the patent infringements so that their veracity can be challenged and workarounds found. "Naming them would either make it clear that Linux is not infringing at all (which is quite possible, especially if the patents are bad), or would make it possible to avoid infringing by coding around whatever silly thing they claim," "So the whole 'We have a list and we're not telling you' should tell you something. Don't you think that if Microsoft actually had some really foolproof patent, they'd just tell us and go, 'nyaah, nyaah, nyaah!'?" whole story here: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-microsoft-put

01-30-2008, 10:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
kpmwrestler Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 490	Re: Cache vs. Frequency or is it something special about black edition with 2x512kb that beats a 5200 with 2x1mb __________________ Torvalds was contemptuous of Microsoft's claims and has asked Redmond to name the patent infringements so that their veracity can be challenged and workarounds found. "Naming them would either make it clear that Linux is not infringing at all (which is quite possible, especially if the patents are bad), or would make it possible to avoid infringing by coding around whatever silly thing they claim," "So the whole 'We have a list and we're not telling you' should tell you something. Don't you think that if Microsoft actually had some really foolproof patent, they'd just tell us and go, 'nyaah, nyaah, nyaah!'?" whole story here: http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-microsoft-put

01-30-2008, 11:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Poizen22 former amd gt player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,735	Re: Cache vs. Frequency the 5000+ be has an unlocked multiplier, meaning you dont need to raise the fsb to increase the clock speed, and its 65nm so itl over clock alot farther the the 5200+ __________________ cpu-q6600 3.6 lapped 38 c idle 51c load 1.368v -mobo 750iftwpencil modded -gpu g92 8800gts ram-1x2gb rendition value ram ddr800 4-4-4-12 crucial on rma-psu 600w silverstone strider-160gb caviar drive+ 160gb wd mybook external-lg dvd rw x3-nzxt apollo-tuniq tower 15982 3d marks in 06. liquid loop coming soon. sli coming soon.

01-31-2008, 06:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
vernong1992 Mod and Post Count Hacker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 15,706	Re: Cache vs. Frequency the cache is usually just affects Video Encoding speeds for a normal user, but get the 5000+ BE instead of both of those __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+ 2.4Ghz/ Arctic Freezer Pro64 Biostar TA780G-M2+ / 2GB DDR2 1066 RAM 80gb Western Digital Caviar / Windows Server 2008 Antec BP550 / Coolermaster Centurion 534 Soundblaster Audigy (OH NOES IT STOPPED WORKING! I NEED AN X-FI!) / Steelsound 3H Headset HD 3200.. (trying to troubleshoot my HD 2900GT right now..) I do not accept support requests by PM, Profile or IM/Email. Please ask it on the forums! I need to RMA myself because I was DOA when I was born.

01-31-2008, 06:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
maroon1 Wizard Techie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,322	Re: Cache vs. Frequency Note: Brisbane is slightly slower than a similar clocked Windsor, even if both have the same cache 5000+ Brisbane and 5000+ Windsor, both have the same clock speed and cache. Yet the Brisbane version performs slightly slower than the Windsor, thats because the Brisbane chip have higher latencies in the cache than Windsor AMD's 65nm L2 cache looks to be slower - The Tech Report __________________ CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 MOBO: Intel DP35DP Video card: eVGA 8800GTS 320MB Hard drive: WD 500GB Monitor: Samsung 206BW 20" Wide OS: Windows XP Professional SP2 Last edited by maroon1; 01-31-2008 at 07:04 AM.

01-31-2008, 01:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Poizen22 former amd gt player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,735	Re: Cache vs. Frequency ya but the 65nm 5000+ will oc very very far. __________________ cpu-q6600 3.6 lapped 38 c idle 51c load 1.368v -mobo 750iftwpencil modded -gpu g92 8800gts ram-1x2gb rendition value ram ddr800 4-4-4-12 crucial on rma-psu 600w silverstone strider-160gb caviar drive+ 160gb wd mybook external-lg dvd rw x3-nzxt apollo-tuniq tower 15982 3d marks in 06. liquid loop coming soon. sli coming soon.

01-31-2008, 01:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
LeftEyeBlind Super Techie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: America Posts: 480	Re: Cache vs. Frequency How far? __________________ PROJECT WOLFDALE GIGABTE GA-P35-DS3L (Rev. 2) Intel Core 2 Duo e8400 "Wolfdale" 3.66Ghz 2X512MB Patriot Extreme - 1X1GB Mushkin BFG 8800GT OC Antec Nine Hundred

01-31-2008, 01:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Poizen22 former amd gt player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,735	Re: Cache vs. Frequency 3.4 easy, 3.6 or more if your good. __________________ cpu-q6600 3.6 lapped 38 c idle 51c load 1.368v -mobo 750iftwpencil modded -gpu g92 8800gts ram-1x2gb rendition value ram ddr800 4-4-4-12 crucial on rma-psu 600w silverstone strider-160gb caviar drive+ 160gb wd mybook external-lg dvd rw x3-nzxt apollo-tuniq tower 15982 3d marks in 06. liquid loop coming soon. sli coming soon.

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