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11-10-2007, 03:09 AM
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|  Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge yup, tis true.
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11-10-2007, 03:22 AM
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| Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge Well your just looking at the clock speed- what about Execution Units, Pipeline, and other things the CPU has? these will tell us which is faster- does anyone have the info on these things on the Phenoms? 2.x Ghz is nothing to boast about if it takes 2x as long to make one process. (Yes I read the CPU tutorial guide) heres the example there (first) "Prescott: 90nm die process size 3 execution units 31 stage pipeline 3.0GHz Memory controller on the motherboard’s “Northbridge” Venice: 90nm die process size 3 execution units 12 stage pipeline 1.8GHz Memory controller integrated into processor." the 3.0 GHz takes over twice as long to do 1 thing as the 1.8Ghz due to its "31 stage pipeline" - it has to do 31 things before it's done and ready for the next- so in fact it takes nearly 3 times as long as the 1.8GHz as it only has to do 12.... and thats just the first big example because I see your only compairing GHz to GHz. Lets get some hardcore facts on these phenoms into this thread.
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11-10-2007, 03:46 AM
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11-10-2007, 03:54 AM
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| Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge well if you're talking about R&D then I think Intels budget is larger than AMDs
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11-10-2007, 03:58 AM
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| Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge Quote:
and i was talking on amd's behalf... saying that even if they're quad is cheaper to produce (as in numbers) it doesnt matter if they had to spend to much to actually make it (as in, make a final cpu)
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11-10-2007, 08:08 AM
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| Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge wow.. you guys argue good  and nice sig Nos.. haha
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11-10-2007, 10:57 AM
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11-10-2007, 11:20 AM
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| Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge i kno one reason the core 2 duo perform alot better then the amdx2 is because it has 4 execution units, and the x2 has 3.
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11-10-2007, 05:24 PM
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 | Re: AMD Phenom X4 CPU Prices Emerge Quote:
Hey, the fact that Intel isn't using an IMC isn't even that bad. How long has LGA 775 lasted. However, AMD has released multiple platforms in that time. You realize S939 is basically screwed over when it comes to upgrades right now? No BIOS flash is going to solve my problem that I'd be paying two times for a dual core and my RAM than AM2 counterparts if I wanted to upgrade them. So now, I'm stuck with buying a new motherboard, RAM, and CPU or investing money into a dead socket, and buying slower, more expensive pieces. But those people with a Pentium 4, they can upgrade to Core 2's with just an easy BIOS flash plenty of the time. So yeah, the IMC hasn't been all wonders for AMD.
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