[philbar71]

if your spending 200 on a gfx card then go with a 9800gtx+ better than the 4830.

[Apokalipse]

a 4850 performs slightly better than a 9800 GTX+

[Hussein19891]

Go with ATI this round, you won't be disappointed in their performance. That being said, Nvidia cards tend to be great when it comes to over clocking.

[maroon1]

I don't think that HD4850 is slightly better that 9800GTX+

I know some people could post some reviews that shows HD4850 being better than 9800GTX+

But I have also seen reviews that show 9800GTX+ being better than HD4850 overall

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[Apokalipse]

Originally Posted by maroon1

I don't think that HD4850 is slightly better that 9800GTX+

Or, you won't admit.

[Hussein19891]

Legit Reviews - ATI Radeon HD 4850 Versus NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ - Battle For Mainstream Market Share

[maroon1]

Originally Posted by Hussein19891

Legit Reviews - ATI Radeon HD 4850 Versus NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ - Battle For Mainstream Market Share

Thank you for posting this

It looks like 9800GTX+ was better in many cases, depending on the gaming benchmark you look at.

[Apokalipse]

they're about even without AA, with the 4850 performing better with AA.
We've been through this before.

[maroon1]

Originally Posted by Apokalipse

they're about even without AA, with the 4850 performing better with AA.
We've been through this before.

I think you didn't look at benchmarks page by page

In campany of heroes they did run at 8x CSAA, and 9800GTX+ performed better

Read the line above the chart
Legit Reviews - ATI Radeon HD 4850 Versus NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ - Company of Heroes

In Tomb Raider: Anniversary they did run Nvidia to 16x QAA while the ATI to 4x. So, it is not very fair comparison

I believe those the only games that benchmarked with AA enable. The other games benchmarked without having AA enable, and 9800GTX+ performed in majority of those games. So, this at least refute your theory about performing even without AA.

Personally, I say 9800GTX+ performs better most of the time without AA, while HD4850 performs most of the time with AA (though not all the time)

[Apokalipse]

Originally Posted by maroon1

I think you didn't look at benchmarks page by page

I think you like to cherrypick your results.
But, in knowledge of the fact that you won't change your mind anyway, I'm refusing to debate with you about it.