Decent Quote?

Teh noob · 08-13-2005, 02:19 AM

Okay, I hate to post again, but....

Okay, I just got quoted for this system:

EN-NI3 Enpower Nintro4
Case, the one I already talked about
2 512 Corsair ddr ram
6600GT PCI-E 128MB
NF4SLI S939 ATX PCI-E GBT
AMD ATH 64 3500+
80 Gig 7200RPM (whats the deal with every quote having an 80 gig? I would want much more with my computer)
Floppy drive (for drivers, he said)

All coming out to around 899, because I think one of the things that I'm not taking in that quote is the aftermarked heat sink and fan, since i'm probably not going to be overclocking my computer.

So what do you think? He said to save another 70 I could downgrade to the AMD 3200 (i think). Should I? Do I need the 3500? And am I really going to need SLI? Sure its a great thing to have but I'm wondering if it is necessary for the price.

Oh and why the hatin on dell? I have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and I haven't had any real problems with it. Granted, I do take pretty good care of it, but really I haven't come across that many terrible dell computers.

Flanker · 08-13-2005, 02:37 AM

No way that should be $900. More like $700. No, 3200+ and 3500+ are practically the same, you don't need the 3500+, stick to 3200+.

Teh noob · 08-13-2005, 03:12 AM

oh wow really? He said by having them build it and by buying the parts through them, I would get it cheaper than doing it alone. I wasn't quite sure I believed him. I would list all of the prices he gave for them seperately, but he didn't put them on the invoice.

TheHeadFL · 08-13-2005, 03:14 AM

That sounds like a noname motherboard... you may be gettin ripped off.

DJ-CHRIS · 08-13-2005, 08:47 AM

It's a decent price for a system that your not building yourself.

If your building it yourself, you could go cheaper.

KMOTE · 08-13-2005, 10:00 AM

I am not sure about the $-£ conversion, but that seems like an OK deal. if you build it yourself though you can get exactly what you want and maybe shave off a little cost at the same time.

Teh noob · 08-13-2005, 01:23 PM

If you don't think the motherboard is good, what would you suggest? And should I get one witih SLI?

Flanker · 08-13-2005, 02:26 PM

Are you willing to spend another $160 to buy another video card? Do you need the performance of 2 video cards? If not, don't go with SLi. 2 6600GTs wouldn't be worth it anyways.

Ok, do you know how to build a computer? Even if you don't, its easy to learn. Its not going to be anything like building blocks though, it IS a computer...but you could save $150-$200 rather than buying it.

Yea, the motherboard seems shady. Unless you want 2 video cards, don't get a SLi motherboard. If you're not overclocking, then there are some very cheap motherboards out there that support Athlon 64s.

Teh noob · 08-14-2005, 12:00 AM

Okay, he said it would be a good way to plan for the future to have SLI. Instead of upgrading to the newest 500 dollar video card, I could just throw another older one in and have it run just as well. But you're saying I really don't need it? Its not like I plan to run several monitors either.

Flanker · 08-14-2005, 12:54 AM

SLi doesn't have anything to do with multiple monitors, but I think you might've meant something else. The thing with SLi, you put two video cards but only get a 75% or so boost in performance. So with two cards, instead of 200% the performance of one, you get 175% the performance. And you have to have 2 of the same cards and I think that have to be made by the same manufacturer (So 2x eVGA 6600GTs, not one eVGA 6600GT and one PNY 6600GT).

The argument of two working as well as one for the same price works the other way around also. SLi can bring up other complications as well, complications that don't happen with just one video card.

SLi is generally for those people that have money to burn and always HAVE to HAVE the latest and greatest. Unless you're one of those people, you shouldn't get SLi.

I don't blame the person for trying to sell it to you though. He makes a good point, but judging by the rest of your hardware, it doesn't really look like you're "Planning for the future." Chances are, if you want to keep up with the games, you'll have to buy a new system in around 2 years, just like I will.

08-13-2005, 02:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Teh noob Newb Techie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19	Decent Quote? Okay, I hate to post again, but.... Okay, I just got quoted for this system: EN-NI3 Enpower Nintro4 Case, the one I already talked about 2 512 Corsair ddr ram 6600GT PCI-E 128MB NF4SLI S939 ATX PCI-E GBT AMD ATH 64 3500+ 80 Gig 7200RPM (whats the deal with every quote having an 80 gig? I would want much more with my computer) Floppy drive (for drivers, he said) All coming out to around 899, because I think one of the things that I'm not taking in that quote is the aftermarked heat sink and fan, since i'm probably not going to be overclocking my computer. So what do you think? He said to save another 70 I could downgrade to the AMD 3200 (i think). Should I? Do I need the 3500? And am I really going to need SLI? Sure its a great thing to have but I'm wondering if it is necessary for the price. Oh and why the hatin on dell? I have a dell inspiron 8600 laptop and I haven't had any real problems with it. Granted, I do take pretty good care of it, but really I haven't come across that many terrible dell computers.

08-13-2005, 03:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
TheHeadFL Ultra Techie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 530	That sounds like a noname motherboard... you may be gettin ripped off. __________________ Desktop machine: 2 x Opteron 246, Asus K8N-DL, 2GB PC3200 ECC Reg., XFX GeForce 6600GT, 74gb WD Raptor, 2 x 19\" LCDs, Windows XP x64 Server machine: Intel P4 3.0GHz 2MB EM64T, ECS i865pe, 1GB PC3200, 36gb WD Raptor, Windows Server 2003 Laptop: Dell Inspiron 9100 (Intel P4 3.2GHz 1MB Prescott, i865pe, 512MB PC3200, Mobility Radeon 9700, DVD+R/DL Burner), Windows XP Linux: P3 450Mhz, 386MB ram, Slackware 10.1 (Running mySQL/Apache)

08-13-2005, 10:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
KMOTE Super Techie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 305	I am not sure about the $-£ conversion, but that seems like an OK deal. if you build it yourself though you can get exactly what you want and maybe shave off a little cost at the same time. __________________ KMOTE

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08-13-2005, 02:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Flanker Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,379	No way that should be $900. More like $700. No, 3200+ and 3500+ are practically the same, you don't need the 3500+, stick to 3200+.

08-13-2005, 03:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Teh noob Newb Techie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19	oh wow really? He said by having them build it and by buying the parts through them, I would get it cheaper than doing it alone. I wasn't quite sure I believed him. I would list all of the prices he gave for them seperately, but he didn't put them on the invoice.

08-13-2005, 08:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
DJ-CHRIS Lord Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,060	It's a decent price for a system that your not building yourself. If your building it yourself, you could go cheaper.

08-13-2005, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Teh noob Newb Techie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19	If you don't think the motherboard is good, what would you suggest? And should I get one witih SLI?

08-13-2005, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Flanker Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,379	Are you willing to spend another $160 to buy another video card? Do you need the performance of 2 video cards? If not, don't go with SLi. 2 6600GTs wouldn't be worth it anyways. Ok, do you know how to build a computer? Even if you don't, its easy to learn. Its not going to be anything like building blocks though, it IS a computer...but you could save $150-$200 rather than buying it. Yea, the motherboard seems shady. Unless you want 2 video cards, don't get a SLi motherboard. If you're not overclocking, then there are some very cheap motherboards out there that support Athlon 64s.

08-14-2005, 12:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Teh noob Newb Techie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19	Okay, he said it would be a good way to plan for the future to have SLI. Instead of upgrading to the newest 500 dollar video card, I could just throw another older one in and have it run just as well. But you're saying I really don't need it? Its not like I plan to run several monitors either.

08-14-2005, 12:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
Flanker Banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,379	SLi doesn't have anything to do with multiple monitors, but I think you might've meant something else. The thing with SLi, you put two video cards but only get a 75% or so boost in performance. So with two cards, instead of 200% the performance of one, you get 175% the performance. And you have to have 2 of the same cards and I think that have to be made by the same manufacturer (So 2x eVGA 6600GTs, not one eVGA 6600GT and one PNY 6600GT). The argument of two working as well as one for the same price works the other way around also. SLi can bring up other complications as well, complications that don't happen with just one video card. SLi is generally for those people that have money to burn and always HAVE to HAVE the latest and greatest. Unless you're one of those people, you shouldn't get SLi. I don't blame the person for trying to sell it to you though. He makes a good point, but judging by the rest of your hardware, it doesn't really look like you're "Planning for the future." Chances are, if you want to keep up with the games, you'll have to buy a new system in around 2 years, just like I will.