Cpu And Ram questions(and Advise for new my comp)

DragenFear · 01-06-2008, 04:20 PM

Ok so with tax money coming up im going to build a new computer wich is going to be a first
my current comp i built is made from parts i salvaged from trashed comps so its going to be 1 **** of an upgrade
Currently Im Running A 700Mhz Celeron Cpu, 512mbs SDRAM, a Zogis GeForce 5200 128mb GPU, And 2 EIDE Hard Drives Totaling About 50 Gb.
So Far I Have Decided To Go For At least a 3.0 Ghz CPU and have found 2 in my budget 1 is a Intel Celeron D 356 3.33GHz 533MHz 512KB Socket 775 CPU thats 36.50 and the other is a Intel Pentium 4 641 3.2GHz 800MHz 2MB Socket 775 CPU For 59.00 My Question Is With The System Im Building Should I Go for The Cheaper One Or The More Expensive?
Im also eying a Intel Pentium D 935 3.2GHz 800MHz 4MB Skt 775 Dual Core CPU thats 92.00 but out of my budget but looks more promising
The System I'm Building Is Going to Have A Forsa GeForce 6600 512MB DDR2 GPU.
As well as 1.5gb of DDR2 RAM.
I will be running Windows Xp Proffesionel and have a 320gb SATA Hard Drive.
I Do Alot Of Gamming As Well As A Ton Of Downloading And Video Conversions.I am pretty much on my comp all day.
So which CPU should I go for?
And this may be a dumb question but DDR2 RAM is better than DDR Ram Right?(i only recently had reason to look at it so i am still learning)
Thamks For Any Help And Advise In Advance

Dragen R.Fear

aetherh4cker · 01-06-2008, 04:30 PM

The old Pentium stuff isn't any good. You want a Core 2 processor, like maybe the E2180. It's about the same price as that Pentium D you mentioned... but lots better.

If you want a Sub-$60 Processor, you'd probably be better off going AMD.

Also, yeah, DDR2 is a little better than DDR1, and right now it's also cheaper. Any recent motherboard won't support DDR1 anyway.

You're going with 1.5GB of RAM? Seems like an odd number... I'd just get a 2x 1GB kit.

How much are you looking at spending in total?

Vaanish · 01-06-2008, 05:19 PM

I would go for:

Newegg.com - FSP Group FSP400-60THN-R ATX 2.0 400W Power Supply 115V/ 220 - 240V NEMKO, TUV, CSA, IEC, UL, CE - Retail

Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Desktop Memory - Retail

Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale 1.6GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

Newegg.com - MSI P31 Neo-F LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Newegg.com - MSI RX2600XT Diamond Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 OC Edition HDMI HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail (good price after rebate)

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM

Which will basically destroy the GeForce 6600/Pentium D

DragenFear · 01-06-2008, 05:28 PM

At Most $300 and i need at least a 3ghz CPUMost Im Spending On A Cpu Is 65.00
do you know any amds that fit the bill in my price range?
If You Can Build A better Comp Based On The Budget Plz Tell me

Edit:By The Way Heres A Question Can You Play A Game Requring 2.8ghz On A 1.6 dual core?

Vaanish · 01-06-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DragenFear

i need at least a 3ghz CPU

GHz means nothing nowadays. The CPU that i linked to is much better than the old netburst 3+ GHz CPUs (such as the pentium D, celeron D)

Also, will you be overclocking? Does the budget include monitor, operating system, hard drive?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragenFear

Edit:By The Way Heres A Question Can You Play A Game Requring 2.8ghz On A 1.6 dual core?

The answer is almost certainly, yes. What game is it?

DragenFear · 01-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Also, will you be overclocking? Does the budget include monitor, operating system, hard drive?

It Includes
MotherBoard
Case
Power Supply
Graphics Card
CPU
Hard Drive
Fans And Heat Sink
Dvd-Burner Drive
RAM
And a friend is buying me the OS as a gift.

Quote:

The answer is almost certainly, yes. What game is it?

Command And Conquer 3 Tibirrium Wars
And stacks of games 5 boxes high 10 rows long(i buy games that my comp cant handle and end up playing them on friends comp

)
So What I Could Consider a 1.6ghz as a 3.2ghz?
ANd i want to overclock but i never have before

aetherh4cker · 01-06-2008, 05:53 PM

$300 will probably be too low for a gaming machine...

Vaanish · 01-06-2008, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aetherh4cker

$300 will probably be too low for a gaming machine...

Yeah thats what i thought, if you can stretch the budget to say $500 then you can get a better system.

Peter.Cort · 01-06-2008, 05:58 PM

you would be extremely hard pressed to build a decent gaming rig for 300 with all the stuff you need.

you could potentially do it, but it would be hella ugly.

and this is an analogy of how dual/quad cores work. its like you and your 3 friends are trying to go somewhere, you won't get there any faster by you four taking 2 cars rather then all 4 in one car. thats how cpus work. one 4ghz cpu will work faster in doing something then a 1.6ghz dual core, that is if the application is programmed for a single core. if its optimized for 2 cores then you can essentially add the two core speeds together to get the speed of it.