Computer Building Help

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 11:33 AM

K guys hello this is my first post here so yay.

This is the budget computer I am building.
I was wondering if all these are compatible with eachother because i am a noob at building computer.

Case-Newegg.com - NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Mobo-Newegg.com - MSI K9NGM4-F V.2 AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 7025 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

CPU-Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

PSU-Newegg.com - Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU ATX 12V 2.0 500W Power Supply 115/ 230 V UL, CUL, TUV, FCC, and CB certification - Retail

Harddrive-Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Burner-Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write - OEM

Wires-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123110
Newegg.com - KINGWIN 15.74" SATA Data & Power combo cable Model SAC-04 - Retail

So that is my budget computer. yes i know it does not have a GPU but i will eventually. Are all those compatible with eachother? and is there more i need to buy?

Ty for all your help and hope to see you guys around!

b1gapl · 03-20-2008, 12:15 PM

Welcome to Tech-Forums!!!

The power supply is too much for your system, but I see you're going to eventually get a dedicated graphics card. But I would suggest this power supply instead:
Newegg.com - Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA, UL, TUV, FCC - Retail

What will be the purpose of this computer?

You also, do not need those wires, as the motherboard will come with them. You're also missing RAM. So here's a suggestion:
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 12:30 PM

Yes sorry i do have ram. Are you sure i dont need those wires. because my Burner is OEM and harddrive is OEM. The purpose is mostly just like websurfing in such with maby some gaming on the side.

BTW i auctually bought that G skill ram. will it hurt my comp if the PSU is to high?

b1gapl · 03-20-2008, 12:38 PM

It won't hurt for the PSU to be high, but it's so unnecessary.

If you look at the motherboard pictures, it shows that it comes with an SATA cable. Well one, so I guess you just need to buy one more.

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 12:42 PM

yes and one more question. Can a SATA I cable ork with a SATA II cable.

also, why dont you like the thermaltake?

also do i need to buy any more sata cables or power cables?

b1gapl · 03-20-2008, 01:46 PM

SATA I is backwards compatible with SATA II, and vice versa. But why are you getting an SATA I cable? Get SATA II.

It's not that I don't like Thermaltake, it's just that I don't normally recommend them for power supplies. And if I'm not mistakened, the Rosewill has more amps on it's +12v rails, which is more important. In my opinion, the Rosewill is better for the price. If you want, you can look at my Recommended PC Components guide. But the final choice is your's, so go for the Thermaltake if you want.

You won't need anymore SATA cables, unless you're buying more hard drives, or optical drives. And the power supply should have all the power cables that you need.

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 01:49 PM

ok i will still buy one more SATA II just in case tho.

darksideleader · 03-20-2008, 01:57 PM

I would buy this motherboard:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

It bascially has a HD 3450 strapped on inside, overclocking is awesome on the 780G chipset worth the extra $50 and you'll be able to hybrid crossfire in the future for a more cost effective solution.

I would also get this ram:
Newegg.com - WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Tighter timings will give it better performance.

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 02:27 PM

i bought the MOBO already so thats out of the question, and i bought ram. Ty for suggestions tho

FATAL FLAW · 03-20-2008, 02:36 PM

is this a good SATA II Cable?

Newegg.com - OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model GC18AUBM - Retail

03-20-2008, 11:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Computer Building Help K guys hello this is my first post here so yay. This is the budget computer I am building. I was wondering if all these are compatible with eachother because i am a noob at building computer. Case-Newegg.com - NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Mobo-Newegg.com - MSI K9NGM4-F V.2 AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 7025 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CPU-Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail PSU-Newegg.com - Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU ATX 12V 2.0 500W Power Supply 115/ 230 V UL, CUL, TUV, FCC, and CB certification - Retail Harddrive-Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Burner-Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write - OEM Wires-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123110 Newegg.com - KINGWIN 15.74" SATA Data & Power combo cable Model SAC-04 - Retail So that is my budget computer. yes i know it does not have a GPU but i will eventually. Are all those compatible with eachother? and is there more i need to buy? Ty for all your help and hope to see you guys around!

03-20-2008, 12:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
b1gapl Commander SMod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 11,804	Re: Computer Building Help Welcome to Tech-Forums!!! The power supply is too much for your system, but I see you're going to eventually get a dedicated graphics card. But I would suggest this power supply instead: Newegg.com - Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA, UL, TUV, FCC - Retail What will be the purpose of this computer? You also, do not need those wires, as the motherboard will come with them. You're also missing RAM. So here's a suggestion: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail __________________ Recommended PC Components Guide Potentially the longest thread in history!! Tech-Forums Official 3DMark06/05/03 Top List

03-20-2008, 12:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Computer Building Help Yes sorry i do have ram. Are you sure i dont need those wires. because my Burner is OEM and harddrive is OEM. The purpose is mostly just like websurfing in such with maby some gaming on the side. BTW i auctually bought that G skill ram. will it hurt my comp if the PSU is to high? Last edited by FATAL FLAW; 03-20-2008 at 12:36 PM.

03-20-2008, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
b1gapl Commander SMod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 11,804	Re: Computer Building Help It won't hurt for the PSU to be high, but it's so unnecessary. If you look at the motherboard pictures, it shows that it comes with an SATA cable. Well one, so I guess you just need to buy one more. __________________ Recommended PC Components Guide Potentially the longest thread in history!! Tech-Forums Official 3DMark06/05/03 Top List

03-20-2008, 12:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Computer Building Help yes and one more question. Can a SATA I cable ork with a SATA II cable. also, why dont you like the thermaltake? also do i need to buy any more sata cables or power cables? Last edited by FATAL FLAW; 03-20-2008 at 12:59 PM.

03-20-2008, 01:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
b1gapl Commander SMod Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 11,804	Re: Computer Building Help SATA I is backwards compatible with SATA II, and vice versa. But why are you getting an SATA I cable? Get SATA II. It's not that I don't like Thermaltake, it's just that I don't normally recommend them for power supplies. And if I'm not mistakened, the Rosewill has more amps on it's +12v rails, which is more important. In my opinion, the Rosewill is better for the price. If you want, you can look at my Recommended PC Components guide. But the final choice is your's, so go for the Thermaltake if you want. You won't need anymore SATA cables, unless you're buying more hard drives, or optical drives. And the power supply should have all the power cables that you need. __________________ Recommended PC Components Guide Potentially the longest thread in history!! Tech-Forums Official 3DMark06/05/03 Top List Last edited by b1gapl; 03-20-2008 at 01:51 PM.

03-20-2008, 01:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Computer Building Help ok i will still buy one more SATA II just in case tho.

03-20-2008, 01:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
darksideleader Ultra Techie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 951	Re: Computer Building Help I would buy this motherboard: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail It bascially has a HD 3450 strapped on inside, overclocking is awesome on the 780G chipset worth the extra $50 and you'll be able to hybrid crossfire in the future for a more cost effective solution. I would also get this ram: Newegg.com - WINTEC AMPX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail Tighter timings will give it better performance. __________________ e6550@ 3800mhz (7x543) @ 1.35v Scythe Infinity w/ Scythe KAMA PWM 120mm fan ASUS P5K G.SKILL 2x1GB @ 1086mhz 5-5-4-15 HD Radeon 3850 775/975 Acer AL2216W 22" LCD Monitor Antec Smart Power 450 Watt Vista Home Premium Edition 64-bit Last edited by darksideleader; 03-20-2008 at 01:59 PM.

03-20-2008, 02:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Computer Building Help i bought the MOBO already so thats out of the question, and i bought ram. Ty for suggestions tho

03-20-2008, 02:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
FATAL FLAW Newb Techie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Computer Building Help is this a good SATA II Cable? Newegg.com - OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model GC18AUBM - Retail

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