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BBC NEWS | England | 'Talking' CCTV scheme expanding

Cant say im too pleased about this, first its pick up litter next its pervert country, my acts of indecency are over


"Talking" CCTV cameras that tell off people dropping litter or committing anti-social behaviour are to be extended to 20 areas across England.

They are already used in Middlesbrough where anyone seen misbehaving can be told to stop via a loudspeaker, controlled by control centre staff.

Home Secretary John Reid has earmarked nearly £500,000 to add speaker facilities to already-existing cameras.

Critics say the cameras are absurd and an intrusion into everyday life.

Mr Reid told BBC News there would be some people, "in the minority who will be more concerned about what they claim are civil liberties intrusions".

"But the vast majority of people find that their life is more upset by people who make their life misery in the inner cities because they can't go out and feel safe and secure in a healthy, clean environment because of a minority of people," he added.

The talking cameras did not constitute "secret surveillance", he said.

"It's very public, it's interactive."

"What really upsets people is their night out being destroyed or their environment being destroyed by a fairly small minority of people who get involved in... drunk and disorderly behaviour or gangs or whatever."

Competitions would also be held at schools in many of the areas for children to become the voice of the cameras, Mr Reid said.

Downing Street's "respect tsar", Louise Casey, said the cameras "nipped problems in the bud" and reduced bureaucracy.

"It gets across the message, 'please don't litter our streets because someone else will have to pay to pick up that litter again'," she told BBC News.

"Half a billion pounds a year is spent picking up litter."

'Safer town centre'

The talking cameras - already in place in Middlesbrough - will be installed in Southwark, in London, Barking and Dagenham, in London, Reading, Harlow, Norwich, Ipswich, Plymouth, Gloucester, Derby, Northampton, Mansfield, Nottingham, Coventry, Sandwell, Wirral, Blackpool, Salford, South Tyneside and Darlington.

In Middlesbrough, staff in a control centre monitor pictures from 12 talking cameras and can communicate directly with people on the street.

Local councillor Barry Coppinger says the scheme has prevented fights and criminal damage and cut litter levels.

"Generally, I think it has raised awareness that the town centre is a safe place to visit and also that we are keeping an eye open to make sure it is safe," he said.

But opponent and campaigner Steve Hills said: "Apart from being absurd, I think it's rather sad that we should have faceless cameras barking at us on orders from who? Who sets these cameras up?"

There are an estimated 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain.

A recent study by the government's privacy watchdog, the Information Commissioner, warned that Britain was becoming a "surveillance society".

[Oreo]

In britain, were the most WATCHED country in the world, soon we'll be the most talked to by a ****ing camera. Thats a load of bollocks. People will just brick em down.

[Apokalipse]

it's not the camera that talks to you. It's a guy watching the cameras who talks to you.

[Oreo]

Thats worse.

[Apokalipse]

Originally Posted by K M A N

Thats worse.

How is it worse?

[OTOnly]

because he had nothing else to say?

Whats the man behind the camera gonna do if u just walk away? Do they send the cops for littering?

[Apokalipse]

Originally Posted by OTOnly

because he had nothing else to say?

nothing else to say? what does that mean?
The guy tells you if you're doing something wrong.
If you don't want him telling you you're doing something wrong, then don't do something wrong.

Whats the man behind the camera gonna do if u just walk away? Do they send the cops for littering?

Depends how serious the crime is. I'm not sure how serious a crime littering is in the UK.

[OTOnly]

nothing else to say? what does that mean?
The guy tells you if you're doing something wrong.
If you don't want him telling you you're doing something wrong, then don't do something wrong.

I was refering to KMAN. I should have written that clearer.