The more adequete Description of "Hacker"

mrdinkel · 06-21-2004, 11:06 PM

Those defintions were from Marrian-Webster online. www.m-w.com

I guess another question to ask is whether or not you dislike being referred to as a "hacker"?

Myself, the term tends to lend to the connotation of the destructive type. Therefore, being referred to as a hacker offends me.

Dave · 06-21-2004, 11:14 PM

Depending upon which group you may be in, or who composes your circle of friends, might make the difference in what one means by the word, or how one takes being called that.

Most of the people around here would take hacker like you said, as one that is destructive. It may not be fair to all that it have a negative connotation, but it seems that it does.

Dave

Hackerman · 06-22-2004, 12:53 AM

actually hacker is a term the media used to describe a "cracker", no not a white guy, someone who "cracks" into computers and either steals data, or uses malicious code on the system. "Hackers" by original definition are those who are active in the advancement of personal computers.

Keyboard Cowboy · 06-22-2004, 01:23 AM

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1 : one that hacks

Considering that I USED to play AD&D, I can agree to that. Eg. HACK-MASTER, Dungeon Hack.
How ever, not common slang.

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2 : a person who is inexperienced or unskilled at a particular activity

W.T.F.? I have never heard that one before.

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3 : an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer

No. I don't think so.
Computer Cracker more like it.

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4 : a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system

I agree with that one.

nak-1 · 06-22-2004, 09:43 AM

A hacker used to be someone who was particularly adept at gettng into the guts of a computer to sort out tricky problems. A 'Cracker' was always someone malicious. Therefore you could be both.

However the media seems to have settled upon the title of 'Hacker' as the malicious one, hence most of the world believe 'Hacker' to be a malicious term.

d14dsp1k3 · 06-22-2004, 01:25 PM

A hacker is one someone who is a computer expert....it's as simple as that. They have knowledge of many operating systems, programming languages, protocols, etc. (and use that knowledge to gain access to...in most cases...a remote network)

If you wanna get into all the White Hat, Black Hat bs, then a white hat hacker is someone who hacks, but is not destructive. A black hat is destructive.

I agree with definition 4 also.

mrdinkel · 06-22-2004, 02:12 PM

Well, i have to agree with you silesia. I guess they were referring to something done crappily, like a "hack job" ..

amarine88 · 06-23-2004, 01:30 AM

some guy wrote a book on this and there are 2 different kinds of hackers. Legal and illegal one is the first choise and the other is the second chose.

Wartorment · 06-23-2004, 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by Hackerman
actually hacker is a term the media used to describe a "cracker", no not a white guy, someone who "cracks" into computers and either steals data, or uses malicious code on the system. "Hackers" by original definition are those who are active in the advancement of personal computers.

Oh, man, I dunno why, but that white guy part had me laughing for like 5 minutes straight.

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06-21-2004, 11:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Dave Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: "Almost Heaven" USA Posts: 4,855	Depending upon which group you may be in, or who composes your circle of friends, might make the difference in what one means by the word, or how one takes being called that. Most of the people around here would take hacker like you said, as one that is destructive. It may not be fair to all that it have a negative connotation, but it seems that it does. Dave __________________ Tech Forums Moderating Policies \| Forum Rules \| ***PROFANITY*** Note that I do not accept support requests via IM, email, or PMs. Please ask it on the forums. Trying this out: My Dollar Store :: Naturally Good

06-22-2004, 09:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
nak-1 True Techie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 168	A hacker used to be someone who was particularly adept at gettng into the guts of a computer to sort out tricky problems. A 'Cracker' was always someone malicious. Therefore you could be both. However the media seems to have settled upon the title of 'Hacker' as the malicious one, hence most of the world believe 'Hacker' to be a malicious term. __________________ -------------------- Nak Is it just me, or does something smell suspicious about all this?

06-22-2004, 02:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
mrdinkel Ultra Techie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 584	Well, i have to agree with you silesia. I guess they were referring to something done crappily, like a "hack job" .. __________________ A+ Core Hardware, Software Certified (May 13 2005) the new beast... AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton running at 2.16 Ghz. GeForce MX 4000 (mainly takes the load off the main system) Creative Labs Audigy 24-bit sound. Some Case from tigerdirect 512 MB Ultra DDR RAM. 80GB Seagate HDD LiteOn CD-RW / DVD ROM drive. currently looking at a litescribe drive at staples, due to its ability to label the CD shortly after being burned.

06-22-2004, 12:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hackerman Super Techie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 322	actually hacker is a term the media used to describe a "cracker", no not a white guy, someone who "cracks" into computers and either steals data, or uses malicious code on the system. "Hackers" by original definition are those who are active in the advancement of personal computers.

06-22-2004, 01:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
d14dsp1k3 Newb Techie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 36	A hacker is one someone who is a computer expert....it's as simple as that. They have knowledge of many operating systems, programming languages, protocols, etc. (and use that knowledge to gain access to...in most cases...a remote network) If you wanna get into all the White Hat, Black Hat bs, then a white hat hacker is someone who hacks, but is not destructive. A black hat is destructive. I agree with definition 4 also.

06-23-2004, 01:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
amarine88 Newb Techie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10	some guy wrote a book on this and there are 2 different kinds of hackers. Legal and illegal one is the first choise and the other is the second chose.

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