The end of net neutrality = bad

[Enterpriser]

Originally Posted by fade2black2004

idc if someone is trying to upload their will and im just trying to upload my porn.
i pay for my internet just like they do and i should be allowed to do with it what i want

What if you were the benefactor of that will, and it was leaving 100s of gigs of porn for you?

[fade2black2004]

doesnt matter i pay for my internet just like everyone else
if they dont like their internet speed make them pay for better internet speed

[bmxfreakrider]

i way agree. I use my internet almost with no mercy, 24/7, constant downloading on p2p apps

all while browsing the internet. I pay for it, so I use it.

that makes me wonder. If this thing goes thru, will it slow down P2P apps?

[kfc469]

Originally Posted by Enterpriser

The original post by kfc469, where is that article from? Seemed a bit bias.

I auctually have no idea I found it on another forum and decided to bring it here. I'm assuming that its from that net neutrality petition site.

[Trotter]

If this thing goes thru, will it slow down P2P apps?

Definitely.

There is so much double-speak when it comes to Net Neutrality that neither side makes a lot of sense. In the end, we don't really have a choice.. those we have elected will be making the decission.

[jorsoft03]

I strongly feel we should keep the internet neutral rather than handing it's fate over to the major telecom corps. Ensuring net neurtrality will keep the internet just as it is now which is perfect for me. I already pay for a fast connection (which I love). I don't want to pay even more or switch providers or something like that just to make sure I can access what I want at decent speeds. It should remain as is. Giving so much control to these large companies can only be a bad thing. I can't think of any good coming from it.

[bmxfreakrider]

I have 768k download, and I want to keep it that way, unless i upgrade (so I want all my stuff at atleast 90kb/s (even tho ive hit 100 at M$)

[ben_ben]

i think the internet is fine as it is and i hope this doesn't happen.

[Trifid]

You are all forgetting you are paying for a shared service. This is a common seeing in the UK. "£25 for a totally unlimited 8Mb Max service." They forget to mention on the ads you get throttled as low as 512 speeds or worse depending on ISP and traffic type. Due to the competitive nature of ADSL in Britain there is a price war of who can offer the cheapest service. All claiming unlimited. Some traffic shape worse than others, some actual have a "Fair Usage Cap" on their unlimited.

The best ISP's have no traffic shaping but have a cap in place. The average price is ~£25 for 30GB. My ISP (Entanet) offers 30GB peak and 300GB offpeak, and as expected for a couple of hours when off peak starts everyone and their dog downloads. Problem right there. A central connecting the BT network (which every non-LLU xDSL ISP will connect the home user to the ISPs network) goes through has a limited amount of bandwidth available. The maximum you can purchase is 622Mb/s. This soon fills up with users who download at 8Mb/s so then what happens? Natural contention will slow users down a bit as it begins to near 99% but after that packet loss happens. No one wants that. Do you want pings of 300ms+? Thought not. I like my 8ms echo reply to the BBC server.

Entanet asked the customers what they wanted. Nearly every person said they didn't want traffic to be prioritised. Nearly all said that something needs to be done. They all accepted that increasing bandwidth was not financially viable at £1.5million a year per central ($3,000,000 per year). Their end result was an Anti-Packet Loss Tool. They took the meaning of MAX DSL to its roots. 2Mbps+. If you get more great! On the ALT it will throttle every user down in 0.5meg steps until bandwidth is reduced to the point no traffic is lost. But this also ensures there is little wasted bandwidth available to the user. This tool will stop at 2Mbps, once throughput has reached acceptable levels (96%) than everyone's speed increases at 256k steps. They let everyone monitor this: Entanet NOC » xDSL Central Pipe

Not sure why I typed this out as I'm sure you don't care about the UK's internet system. Although it is very likely to happen to you. I hope you are able to find a ISP which offers a good deal while being honest.