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Old 01-22-2006, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Already on the defensive over its domestic spying program, President George W. Bush's administration has alarmed privacy and free-speech advocates by demanding search information about millions of users of Google and other Internet companies.

The moves raise questions about how far the government should be allowed to go to snoop into U.S. homes. The administration is pushing back hard, defending its surveillance as helping to protect the country from terrorism and, to a lesser extent, shield minors from pornography.

Critics see the moves as an unwarranted expansion of presidential authority.

"Sure, the more intrusive the government becomes, the more potential crime it can solve," said Daniel Solove, associate professor of law at George Washington University Law School.

"But our society is founded on the fact that we don't want to give the government this broad-based power," said Solove, author of the book, The Digital Person: Technology and Privacy in the Information Age.

The administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law blocked by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

Google is fighting the U.S. Justice Department subpoena the company has termed "unduly burdensome, vague and intended to harass." U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales this week asked a federal judge in California to order Google to comply.

"We are trying to gather up information in order to help the enforcement of a federal law to ensure the protection, quite frankly, of our nation's children against pornography," Gonzales said in Washington on Friday.

"We are not asking for the identity of Americans."

Yahoo Inc. and Microsoft Corp. confirmed they had complied, at least partially, with similar subpoenas. America Online, owned by Time Warner Inc., said it provided a list of search requests already publicly available from other sources.

"You have to be alarmed at the idea that the government can come in and say: 'I want you to give me your statistical data.' This could be the first step on the way for asking for the content of the e-mails," said Shayana Kadidal, a lawyer for the New York City-based Center for Constitutional Rights.

The Justice Department has not asked for names or computer addresses. But the search-engine subpoenas reinforced concerns about how much personal information the government should be entitled to.

Congress is holding hearings early next month about whether Bush overstepped his authority in ordering warrantless domestic eavesdropping by the National Security Agency as part of the post-Sept. 11, 2001, war on terror. Legislators, meanwhile, are also considering an administration request to extend the Patriot Act, which sharply expanded the government's ability to obtain private data on individuals.

Both the NSA eavesdropping and the demands for information on Internet consumer searches "are assertions of substantial powers that conflict with civil liberties," said I.M. Destler, a University of Maryland professor of public service who specializes in homeland security.

The White House has mounted an aggressive campaign to defend itself.

Bush plans to visit the NSA on Wednesday to underscore his claim he has the constitutional authority to let intelligence officials listen in on international phone calls of Americans with suspected ties to terrorists.

"The American people want us to do everything in our power to prevent attacks," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Friday.

Gonzales and deputy national intelligence director Michael Hayden also have speeches planned for next week. And Vice-President **** Cheney on Thursday told a conservative think-tank in New York the surveillance program was an essential tool in monitoring al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations.

A majority of people - 56 per cent - said the Bush administration should be required to have a warrant before monitoring phone conversations and Internet communications between U.S. citizens and suspected terrorists, said an AP-Ipsos poll earlier this month.

But when people have been asked in other polls to balance their worries about terrorist threats against their worries about intrusions on privacy, fighting terror is the higher priority.

"I think people are always in favor of civil liberties in the abstract. But in specific cases, they're more free to barter those freedoms away," said Neil Richards, an associate law professor at Washington University in St. Louis.
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Old 01-22-2006, 07:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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And Vice-President **** Cheney on Thursday told a conservative think-tank in New York the surveillance program was an essential tool in monitoring al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations.
Good 'ol ****. :laughing:

I would swear that man would use al-Qaida as an excuse for not buying girl-scout cookies...:sigh:
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"We are trying to gather up information in order to help the enforcement of a federal law to ensure the protection, quite frankly, of our nation's children against pornography," Gonzales said in Washington on Friday.

"We are not asking for the identity of Americans."
BULLSH!T

Bush is getting way to carried away with this bullsh!t. This is ILLEGAL! It used to be against the constitution to perform search and seizure without a warrent. But thanks to the Patriot Act, it seems that we have started to completly dispose of the constitution. This is breaking the laws to protect the rights of the American's citizen.
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Also because of the NSA using advapi32.dll they can spy on you move to linux. lastly be sure to use a proxy when using google.
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I'm not all into the whole political scheme, but I've kept quiet about this sh*t Bush keeps doing in hopes that the next president will just reverse it. Am I dreaming?
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I find it funny that a while ago i was bashing Bush and now the anti Bush bashers are now realizing how bad he REALLY is. That is quite hilarious in my eyes. Its like i said all along, hes power hungry and wants to beat his daddies legacy.
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Also because of the NSA using advapi32.dll they can spy on you move to linux. lastly be sure to use a proxy when using google.

seriously... is there any hard evidence regarding that file being an intentional backdoor placed by the NSA?
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No, people are getting just as carried away as the Bush administration...

That coming from a turned Democrat.

He is by no means the greatest President, but I would like to see one of you do a better job on just one of the things that the President has to deal with
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al gore and kerry would have... :rolleyes:
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