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Old 08-29-2005, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default 8 bits = 1 byte???

why is it so that only 8bits make a byte??
its not a joke...i was asked this by my project manager...
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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from dictionary.com



<unit> /bi:t/ (B) A component in the machine data hierarchy
usually larger than a bit and smaller than a word; now
most often eight bits and the smallest addressable unit of
storage. A byte typically holds one character.

A byte may be 9 bits on 36-bit computers. Some older
architectures used "byte" for quantities of 6 or 7 bits, and
the PDP-10 and IBM 7030 supported "bytes" that were actually
bit-fields of 1 to 36 (or 64) bits! These usages are now
obsolete, and even 9-bit bytes have become rare in the general
trend toward power-of-2 word sizes.

The term was coined by Werner Buchholz in 1956 during the
early design phase for the IBM Stretch computer. It was a
mutation of the word "bite" intended to avoid confusion with
"bit". In 1962 he described it as "a group of bits used to
encode a character, or the number of bits transmitted in
parallel to and from input-output units". The move to an
8-bit byte happened in late 1956, and this size was later
adopted and promulgated as a standard by the System/360
operating system (announced April 1964).

James S. Jones <jsjones@graceland.edu> adds:

I am sure I read in a mid-1970's brochure by IBM that outlined
the history of computers that BYTE was an acronym that stood
for "Bit asYnchronous Transmission E__?__" which related to
width of the bus between the Stretch CPU and its CRT-memory
(prior to Core).

Terry Carr <bear@mich.com> says:

In the early days IBM taught that a series of bits transferred
together (like so many yoked oxen) formed a Binary Yoked
Transfer Element (BYTE).

[True origin? First 8-bit byte architecture?]

See also nibble, octet.

[Jargon File]

(2003-09-21)

Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2005 Denis Howe

byte

/bi:t/ n. [techspeak] A unit of memory or data equal to
the amount used to represent one character; on modern architectures
this is usually 8 bits, but may be 9 on 36-bit machines. Some older
architectures used `byte' for quantities of 6 or 7 bits, and the
PDP-10 supported `bytes' that were actually bitfields of 1 to 36
bits! These usages are now obsolete, and even 9-bit bytes have
become rare in the general trend toward power-of-2 word sizes.

Historical note: The term was coined by Werner Buchholz in 1956
during the early design phase for the IBM Stretch computer;
originally it was described as 1 to 6 bits (typical I/O equipment of
the period used 6-bit chunks of information). The move to an 8-bit
byte happened in late 1956, and this size was later adopted and
promulgated as a standard by the System/360. The word was coined by
mutating the word `bite' so it would not be accidentally misspelled
as bit. See also nybble.

Source: Jargon File 4.2.0
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: 8 bits = 1 byte???

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why is it so that only 8bits make a byte??
its not a joke...i was asked this by my project manager...
Tell your project manager to get a fricken life. And if he persists, point him towards the nearest wiki and walk away.
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Because there are 4 bits in a nibble and 2 nibbles in a byte, makes sense to me.
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As was suggested by Horndude already, 1 byte does NOT necessarily have 8 bits. Could be more or less.

Here's another link for you to read if you want to get more background.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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I still say he should smack the project manager around a bit...
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does anybody know of an OS with compatible motherboard to run the CPU in 36bit mode with 64GB of RAM?
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Instead of telling him you can answer is question with a question

Ever heard of ACSII?
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Yeah, ASCII.
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Old 08-30-2005, 10:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
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1 byte represents 2 hexidecimal numbers

this isn't really why a byte's a byte but somethign you could tell him
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