20,000 Troops Stationed in US

GreenMachine · 12-16-2008, 05:53 AM

wow - what do you all think of this article?
Police State 2009: Pentagon to Militarize USA with 20,000 Armed Troops

Has anyone seen Zeitgeist - The Movie i just saw it today the article tied in

gurusan · 12-16-2008, 05:56 AM

lmfao at that hippy site.

saltynay · 12-16-2008, 06:08 AM

Zeitgeist is a good conspiracy film but my mum's bf was one of the "experts" called in to analyse and report on the 9/11 damage zone as a fire prevention specialist. Showed him the bit the part about the 9/11 bombings and he recognised that they had a valid argument, but said that whilst he was there and he put in his report it was improper coverage of fire protection on some of the steel frame which caused to structural weakening which could of lead to the collapse. He also said the photos of the cut pylons were not extensive enough to show a realistic possiblity of sabotage they could of been reaching a weakened state due to the heat and a large sheet of concrete could of sheared them at that angle.

GreenMachine · 12-16-2008, 06:24 AM

saltynay have you seen {SAXON SNIPED THE LINK}

Media is only acceptable if this one mod agrees ^^

Saxon · 12-16-2008, 06:34 AM

Right the next time i see some one link that peice of filth "loose change" I will close the thread any thread, it's a pile of lies and it is highly disrespectful to the people who died. The simple fact is 9/11 was a tragic day no matter what you think really happend but lose change is FAR from what the truth is.

saltynay · 12-16-2008, 08:00 AM

Precisely although I find conspiracy theories entertaining its more of an amusement factor at how radical someone can stitch a story about an event. I believe the official story for most conspriacy theories and I have actually met some of the people who died in the 9/11 attacks and saw how upset my father was once he heard the news that they were there its not fair on other people to say they died for absolutely nothing but a government trick.

ricanflow · 12-16-2008, 09:34 AM

Lol, it is not against the law to have armed troops on U.S. soil.

Matter of fact that is the role of the national guard, we have a dual role. We can be activated for a state of emergency, or sent overseas. And the Pentagon is the headquarters of all military, whether it be active army, reserve, marines, or national guard.

There is no "pentagon troops", the pentagon can call up any troops it wants, doesn't matter what component.

Wow, these guys are stupid. I dunno where these guys got this info from.

edit: LOL, check this out guys this looks like its where they got the info from

Quote:

On October 1, 2008, the US Army announced that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (BCT) will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command (NORTHCOM), as an on-call federal response force for natural or man-made emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
This marks the first time an active U.S. Army unit will be given a dedicated assignment to NORTHCOM, where it is stated they may be "called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive (CBRNE) attack." These soldiers will also learn how to use non-lethal weapons designed to "subdue unruly or dangerous individuals" without killing them, and also includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and beanbag bullets.[5] However, the "non-lethal crowd control package [...] is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S. [...]".[5]
The US military will have around 20,000 uniformed personnel in this role in the United States by 2011, specifically trained and equipped to assist state and local government, respond to major disasters, terrorist attack, other major public emergencies.[6] This shift in strategy is a result of recommendations by Congress and outside experts.[6] This response capability is not new, but now accompanies a permanent assignment of forces to NORTHCOM.
This formalizes a role for the use of federal troops within the United States during major public emergencies and disasters, as was the case in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.[5] This has raised concern about the relationship between Posse Comitatus and the use of the military in domestic disaster support and homeland defense roles.[7]. However, federal military forces have a long history of domestic roles.[8] The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of federal military forces to "execute the laws"; however, there is disagreement over whether this language may apply to troops used in an advisory, support, disaster response, or other homeland defense role, as opposed to conventional law enforcement.[1]

I hate it when people take things out of context.

saltynay · 12-16-2008, 10:40 AM

I didn't read the article. They obviously don't understand what the role of the national guard is in there own country which is exactly that equipped for emergency situations should local government deem it necessary. Its like the army in the UK when off campaign they are expected to help with emergencies is that right saxon? or is it the TA that is expected to deal with such matters.

Waphlez · 12-16-2008, 10:43 AM

First off, in order to have a "police state" in America, the government would needs thousands, if not millions of more troops. Considering we currently have a fully volunteer military, that idea shouldn't even be considered; and congress isn't likely to allow that system anyway. "Loose Change" and those other tin-foil hat wearing hippies need to take a hike.

Saxon · 12-16-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beefcake

First off, in order to have a "police state" in America, the government would needs thousands, if not millions of more troops. Considering we currently have a fully volunteer military, that idea shouldn't even be considered; and congress isn't likely to allow that system anyway. "Loose Change" and those other tin-foil hat wearing hippies need to take a hike.

This man speaks the truth.

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