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Old 03-14-2005, 08:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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its one of those laws thats not upheld. Doesnt mean you shouldnt pay attention to it though
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Old 03-18-2005, 11:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Unless is says its free, assume it's not.

Any picture, drawing, work of art or written work is ALWAYS copyright. The creator DOES NOT have to put a copyright notice on it, but never the less, that work is STILL copyrighted and property of the creator.

The little copyright symbol you see everywhere serves as a reminder for the leechers. It makes them think twice about using copyrighted work. You may think you can get away with using other peoples work on your page without permission, but thats a chance you take.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Unless is says its free, assume it's not.

Any picture, drawing, work of art or written work is ALWAYS copyright. The creator DOES NOT have to put a copyright notice on it, but never the less, that work is STILL copyrighted and property of the creator.

The little copyright symbol you see everywhere serves as a reminder for the leechers. It makes them think twice about using copyrighted work. You may think you can get away with using other peoples work on your page without permission, but thats a chance you take.
ooooh you are soooo e-****** :rolleyes:

He isn't a leecher, he is not claiming that they are his logo's or that he made them. He did assemble the collection of images, which is not against the law. It is under the Fair Use policy. As long as he doesn't claim it's his logo/images or try to sell any of that stuff he is covered.

It's like when a band covers a song but doesn't put it on a CD and only performs it at a show. They don't have to pay royalties to the copyright holder of the song. If they intend to produce the song and put it on a CD than they have to contact the correct officials to obtain a license.
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Old 03-19-2005, 12:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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ooooh you are soooo e-****** :rolleyes:

He isn't a leecher, he is not claiming that they are his logo's or that he made them. He did assemble the collection of images, which is not against the law. It is under the Fair Use policy. As long as he doesn't claim it's his logo/images or try to sell any of that stuff he is covered.

It's like when a band covers a song but doesn't put it on a CD and only performs it at a show. They don't have to pay royalties to the copyright holder of the song. If they intend to produce the song and put it on a CD than they have to contact the correct officials to obtain a license.
This isn't true. People (copyright holders) just tend to not care a good deal of the time, as its harmless to them. Commentary and criticism (including parody) are fair use if only portions are used. For educational reasons, portions of many works may be used as well.

Covers are often done to pay tribute to the original artist. Not only that, but some small time band in suburban America wouldn't catch the ear of the copyright holders (if they don't know, they can't sue) and even if they did, its unlikely that would care if it is just one or two cover songs in addition to their own works.

To summarize, what the original poster described is NOT fair use. It IS illegal. However, the copyright holders will most likley not care. Should they care, they most likley will not sue, and send a cease and desist letter instead. I would go ahead and not worry about it, so long as the OP doesn't profit (don't put up ads along with those images).

Here is some information you may wish to read over: http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyrigh...pter9/9-b.html
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Old 03-19-2005, 01:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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ooooh you are soooo e-****** :rolleyes:

He isn't a leecher, he is not claiming that they are his logo's or that he made them. He did assemble the collection of images, which is not against the law. It is under the Fair Use policy. As long as he doesn't claim it's his logo/images or try to sell any of that stuff he is covered.

It's like when a band covers a song but doesn't put it on a CD and only performs it at a show. They don't have to pay royalties to the copyright holder of the song. If they intend to produce the song and put it on a CD than they have to contact the correct officials to obtain a license.
um, first off, I wasnt attacking chrisgill369 at all. Personally, I dont give a rats *** what he has on his website. I was simply clarifying what I know about copyright laws. My comments were general, not targetted at anyone in particular.

C.Ingram, yea, im not disagreeing with you, i was simply saying that all original material is copyrighted...and that people should be aware that just because it doesnt say 'copyright' doesnt mean its free to use.

anyway, this took a weird turn...sorry for the offense. jezuz. people are so uptight sometimes.
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Old 03-19-2005, 01:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Originally posted by eipeks C.Ingram, yea, im not disagreeing with you, i was simply saying that all original material is copyrighted...and that people should be aware that just because it doesnt say 'copyright' doesnt mean its free to use. [/B]
I wasn't disagreeing with you either. I was disagreeing with Hackerman
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Old 03-19-2005, 03:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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I wasn't disagreeing with you either. I was disagreeing with Hackerman
cheers mate. justa bad day...sorry.
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Old 03-19-2005, 03:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I agree. I would think that the original owner would rather go after somebody that took their image and then claimed it as theirs.

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Old 03-19-2005, 03:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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chrisgill369 if you are using it in your sig and as a wallpaper for your desktop nobody really cares because that is for personal use. if you are selling or distrubuting these things on a larger scale than yes they might take legal action against you. for example putting the images on CD's and selling them off ebay.

if you are using images that are from an idividual artist they might tell you to stop doing that. Some things that you definately cannot do is modify someone else's images and claim it as your own. for example if an artist drew a battle scene and you remove one object from it and put it into a different background that you created, and than claim the entire image as an original work of your own.

personal sigs are basically exempt from this rule because if you see something like a DFI lanparty mobo in someone's signature on this forum, most people are not going to assume that you are the sole copyright owner or creator of that piece of hardware. this is also the case with anti-spam images, those are just for laughs
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Yes it is illegal unless the owner has given you premission. Someone lock this thread now.
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