help using frames

[Rawan AbuSalman]

I am using frontpage 2003 and i am trying to create a page with frames.

I used the preset frame page in frontpage that has 3 frames in it; 1 for the banner, 1 for the menu, and one for the contents of the page

The thing is that I used the top one for the logo...
and the left one for the menu
But the menu is a vertical drop down menu and when I adjust the frame to the width of the menu, the drop downs dont show... I will need to widen the frame a lot so that the drop downs will show...if I do, the contents in the middle frame will be too narrow
and they wont fit properly
I s there any way that the drop downs will show when the frame is not expanded much. ie; I want the left frame (which has the menu) to overlap the middle frame (which has the page contents) so that I dont have to expand the frame to the middle of the page thus the content

Can any one help pls

Thanx

[crazybeans]

You cannot "overlap" frames. You are simply going to have to figure out another way to use global navigation. Maybe you should change your nav bar so it isn't a drop down.

[Rawan AbuSalman]

thanx for your reply....
Is there any other way I can do this thing other than frames?
Can I keep the menu showing when scrolling the page(like it is in a frame) while it is not in a frame?

What other sollutions do you suggest? (it has to be a dropdown menu!)

thanx again

ps: whats global animation

[jinexile]

Frame and Frontpage... two things you should not be using to build webpages (unless you're building an intranet where things like browsers and users are controllable.)

There are plenty of ways around your problem. If you could place your scrolling content into an div with its overflow set to auto (ie. <div id="content" style="overflow:auto">Scrolling content codes here</div>) Or you could use javascript to move the navigation menu with the page.

However, if you have enough content on your page that you lose sight of the navigation menu, you should probably break up your content into multiple pages.

[crazybeans]

First of all, I said "global navigation", not "global animation"... Global navigation is simply the nav bar you use for the whole site.

One option you have would be not using frames and simply add the navigation drop down on every page of your website. You could create a template with you nav bar and logo and use that for each page. Many sites do this such as MSN, Yahoo, Amazon, etc. They, of course, use server end programs to access data that is stored in a data base and then converted into HTML so someone wouldn't have to go in and hard code each and every page. If your website is small you should be fine adding the drop down to each page using a global template.

[kerriganm]

Oh good lord, I'm working on a site that someone created with upteen frames. It's a complete mess. Please don't use frames.

[jinexile]

Frames are a failed expirement of the 90s, they are not only unnecessary and complicated, they are not very accessible for the blind and search engine robots.

[Rawan AbuSalman]

thanx...I fixed the problem...and I only used 1 frame for the banner at the top of the page...