[Sevoma]

The regular tiger is powerpc. You need to get the x86 version and copy the contents on top of your installation.

[waynejkruse10]

and the x86 version is only available on bittorrent and file sharing networks.

Once Tiger for X86 Macintoshes comes out you can do it legally.

[hmccorkle]

"osX86 : A different perspective?" What side are you opposing? You mean to say that osX86 will be easily capable to run on PCs now?

You mean that I can just simply download osX86, install the disk image in VPC or whatever, then just free run?

What about Software Update?

What about registration?

What about hardware compatibility with these linux idiots' solaris systems? What about issues with current PCs?

Do you really think that Apple would really let people get away with installing their OS on just any computer?

You guys are idiots if you think that just a simple crack will do the job in getting OSX to run flawlessly or even BETTER on your PC than it already is on a Mac.

OSX for x86-based processors will be DRM. Digital Rights Managed. THAT means that OSX will only be easily available for Mac computers. It will NOT be available to run on any joe-PC.

PowerMacs will still be PowerMacs, PowerBooks will still be PowerBooks. When was the last time you got Longhorn 4008 to work as a primary OS? When was the last time you successfully installed a Mac Emulator and got it working well?

One thing you guys don't understand is the fact that nothing will change other than the processor. OSX will NOT be available for PCs. It will not work without an end-user's serious amount of knowledge about bypassing DRM, which hasn't even been accomplished when it comes to simply cracking a wma sound file, let alone an entire operating system.

Use your brain, guys, don't think that just because some VPC disk image came out that is operational after a buttload of hard work means that a simple 3-disc Mac OSX Tiger for PC is going to come out.

Good luck in your OSX DRM-cracking endeavours, as for me, I will stick with the superior software and hardware I paid for.

-Chris.

[waynejkruse10]

Humans are very enginiuitive. If the hacker community wants to run os x on thier pc's, they will find a way to do it. I read that somebody has made a patch that bypasses the DRM on the discs so it can be installed on any pc with SSE 2 (SSE 3 preferable) directly, no fussing around with disc images.

If people have cracked the DRM on the Tiger X86 disc before it was commercially released, expect it to be cracked 10 times quicker when its released publicly.

[mac_mogul]

Hmm, I'm not sure how 'questionable' that is...

Apple uses more high quality plastics than most other companies, and that goes for all of its computers. They're also the first computer company I've seen to use such a high grade metal for their computers (G5, Mini, Powerbook, displays, etc) The displays are another masterpiece. A high quality 30 inch display is hard to find these days, but Apple has one. The new Mighty Mouse is another example of their good quality hardware. Not to mention the fact that every Mac comes standard with an industry graphics processor, not common in standard PC's. Also, their laptops are the first (that I know of) to actually come with memory ON the motherboard, leaving room for more expansion than most other laptops.

Also, not only is Apple good with their high quality hardware, but they know exactly how to use it well. Just look at the Mini! It completely replaced the bulky PowerMac G4 and Apple managed to cram it into a kleenex box sized case who's size is nearly identical to the footprint of their newest displays. You also have to think what you get with that. SuperDrive, 512mb RAM, AirPort Extreme, ATI GPU, 80gb HD, etc etc etc etc, AND its attractive. No 500 dollar PC has EVER been attractive.

As far as software goes, there's not many titles that can compete with Apple's iApps. Soundtrack and GarageBand are taking the music community by storm, and iTunes has been the leading title for jukebox software for a few years now. Final Cut Pro is also an industry leading title for movie producing and effects creation.

In my opinion, there's no question when it comes to Apple's quality. In their case, you really do get what you pay for.

[furtivefelon]

oh yah, didn't you read how they cracked the OS? it's wayy too easy to be in the final release.. Why would they make it that easy? prob their intention is to make it crackable so people will try it out.. but then, most ppl won't even bother with it as the installing is too complex..

[hmccorkle]

Originally posted by Thendar
I'm more interested in the components than how pretty the computer is. It's hard to find because not many people want one nor can afford the $3,000.00 price tag.
Not from what the reviewers are saying.
Also not to mention that the GPU is out-dated by PC standards, and all Apple computers with the exception of the Power Mac the video isn't upgradable.... Here is an example of Apple's "high quality" design.
Not really all that amazing, the Mini is basically just a laptop without a display, keyboard or mouse. Apple uses laptop components in the Mini which accounts for the small size and it's less than stellar performance especially the hard drive.
Add a keyboard, mouse, speakers, and a display and that $500 Mini becomes a $900 computer with minimal expansion capabilities.
Although the iApps come bundled with a new Mac you have to pay for any upgrades.... Let's see:
iTunes: Can't argue with that.
iMovieHD: It's OK, but in my opinion the ability to only edit video in DV format is a MAJOR drawback. On the PC side, consumer video editing packages such as, Adobe Premiere Elements, Ulead Video Studio, and Pinnacle Studio to name a few have features that iMovie users can only dream of. With the ability to edit and export in any format imaginable, all which are priced less than $99.
iDVD: Again OK. But the same features are available with the above mentioned software and not a separate application.
Garage Band: Can't really comment, why Apple included this is a wonder since it's really only useful if you understand music composition.
iPhoto: Geesh... I couldn't delete this one fast enough. On the Mac I used iView Media Pro. But on the PC side there is Adobe Photo Album(which BTW comes bundled with the PC version of Photoshop Elements and is not available for the Mac), and a gazillion others that are just as capable. Google even offers Picasa for free.
When you buy a PC you get what you pay for, usually far superior components at a fraction of the price
.

But wait.. when was the last time my Mac froze? When was the last time I had to submit an error report? When was the last time I had to deal with disk fragmentation to the point of where I needed to run an application that was last upgraded somewhere in the early 1990s? When was the last time I had to pay almost $400 for a new copy of my operating system? When was the last time I had to uninstall a program because it was written to cater to as many different hardware configurations as possible, but failed miserably? When was the last time I had to pay $8-24 for pretty much any new software app I downloaded off a software site?

When was the last time I had to deal with spyware? Viruses? Worms? Trojan Horses? Distributed Denial of Service Attacks? Rooting?

How long does it take before my Mac is entirely broken into and already packed with illegal software and connecting to servers nationwide?

When was the last time I considered using a PC since purchasing a mac?

That's right! Never.

Oh, and I have a Mighty Mouse. It is absolutely outstanding. So from a first person point-of-view, a consumer point-of-view, the Mighty Mouse, in my opinion, is stellar. Far more advanced and even economical than any other 3rd party (or even Microsoft) mouse I have ever purchased.

When it comes to choosing horrible software, mid-grade hardware, and hundreds of PC problems not fixable without purchasing even more software, or excellent hardware with outstanding software with out-of-the-box security, Windows on a PC? No thanks. Mac for me, bud.

[waynejkruse10]

(oh great, we have another mac fanboy on the forum)

i have had my mac freeze, lock up many times.

But because of this move to intel, all pc users will have the advantage of running apple's wonderful software on thier pc's and not buying apples crappy overpriced hardware.

Apple's operating systems before Jaguar (10.2 i think, not sure though) was crap. 10.1 was buggy and resource hogging and unsupported.

From Windows 98 to when Mac OS X was released Microsoft has had superior operating systems.

[macdude425]

10.0 and 10.1 sucked. They just sucked overall.

When was the last time I had to pay almost $400 for a new copy of my operating system?

When I bought a copy of SuSE Server Pro. Windows is only $199, on average.

The point is that OSX86 is a challenge. People take this risk of doing it because they are broke, and don't want to buy Apple software. If they get a copy of XCode, they can compile whatever they like.

[greatdevourer]

For a tutorial on how to do it, go to my site (it's in blog)