[waynejkruse10]

ive used them all, and the only reason i dont use linux is because i wanna play games, and not swithc os's all the time. Once my computer becomes too old and crappy to play games ill install linux.

[Qiranworms]

Originally posted by mac_mogul
There are a certain type of people for each OS... Linux people use Linux, Windows people use Windows, and Mac people use Mac. And it take a certain person to be able to use each OS. Linux people are way different than Windows people, Mac people are way different than Windows people, and etc etc... People use the OS they feel most comfortable with(or can afford )

Then how does switching work? If people using different operating systems are so different, does changing operating systems make you a different person?

I don't think you can classify people based on the operating system they use, nor do I think you can classify an operating system based on the people who use it.

I personally would like to have a Mac largely for pro audio software purposes, but also becuase I like OS X...but I can't afford a new computer right now and upgrading my machine is not on the priority list for me, and I despise Windows, so I use Linux. And I like Linux.

[g5orbust]

Originally posted by waynejkruse10
more people use linux than mac, so linux is another competitor for microsoft.

Yes, Linux could be a much greater competator to Microsoft if it wasnt so decentralized. Not enough people use one distrobution of Linux to make it a true threat-as of now, the threat Linux poses is only potential and cannot be realized until Linux is centralized and standardized (which wont happen because that just happens to go against what Linux and open source in general is about...)

[Qiranworms]

Originally posted by g5orbust
Its an interesting point you pose Panther5060 because there can never be an end. Apple, for all intents in purposes, is the only thing keeping Microsoft in business. While you may think this sounds weird and down right wrong, cosndier anti trust lawsuits. Apple is Microsoft's only real competator for any considerable chunk of the consumer computer marker. The second Apple is gone (presumably driven out of business or somehow bought by Microsoft) the trust busters will come in with vengence and break up Microsoft. Thus while on the outside it may seem like theyre bitter enemies in the computer world, in reality they exist in a sort of symbiotic relationship - Mircosoft needs Apple to stay together, Apple needs Microsoft's standard setting programs to work on its platform. Interesting stuff. I could go further but I think you get my point.

Neither Mac OS or Linux are TRUE competitors to Microsoft in the desktop OS market. At least right now, in the sense that Microsoft's desktop market share is not going to drop (or at least I don't see it happening AT ALL) below 90 in the next five years.

Even if Microsoft could snap their fingers and have Apple gone, here's a possible other reason why they wouldn't want to for their own interests: a large number of Mac users will purchase Microsoft Office Mac along with their Mac. There's a possibilty that they make more money off Office Mac then they would with that additional 3% of home computer market share.

Anyhow, Linux is a HUGE concern for Microsoft. Not in the desktop market share; home computing is over 90% Windows. Microsoft's struggle is in the server market. Linux is a huge threat to MS; just we don't see it on our computers at home and work doesn't mean it isn't there.

[Panther5060]

more like... the second there is a winner, there will probably be about 2-3 more competing companies popping up out of the ****** ground just itching to file lawsuits against microsoft for their beautiful monopoly...

and then itll be 3 companies on a much more equal basis, ripping the computer industry apart with "who can build the next OS fastest" and "who can build the next os cheapest"

im pretty happy with things atm between microsoft and apple, let the 2 fight and fight and fight, ill just sit on windows xp, then longhorn etc. etc. etc.

main problems with macs, is that ONLY mac builds stuff for mac... i have yet to see asus build a mac motherboard, or any standard developed like ATX/BTX/Micro ATX.

if mac wants the market, they need to design a system that follows the design patterns of the celeron or duron processors. Apple needs a cheap system, and they need it to be upgradable in terms of the case can be salvaged.

then mac needs to do something about its ram interface... frickin running ddr3200 on dual 64-bit cpus, my god wheres the rdram/ddr2ram that would turn apple computers into amazing powerhouses...

now... heres something i dont get about people, why buy the microsoft office suite?!

please people look at www.corel.com (im not advertising, im helping people to not get ripped off) microsoft office was based on corel, and corel is a MUCH better office suite. Corel office can take all microsoft office applications/convert them to corel, and convert them back to microsoft office documents/applications. BTW they are a hella lot smaller than MS office files.

on top of that, you can get corel 12 suite on ebay for like $20, see if you can get a single office xp program for $20...

[waynejkruse10]

thats what i want. I wish IBM sell thier Powerpc (the g5 chips) and mobo manufacturers make motherboards for it.

[g5orbust]

Originally posted by qiranworms
Neither Mac OS or Linux are TRUE competitors to Microsoft in the desktop OS market. At least right now, in the sense that Microsoft's desktop market share is not going to drop (or at least I don't see it happening AT ALL) below 90 in the next five years.

Even if Microsoft could snap their fingers and have Apple gone, here's a possible other reason why they wouldn't want to for their own interests: a large number of Mac users will purchase Microsoft Office Mac along with their Mac. There's a possibilty that they make more money off Office Mac then they would with that additional 3% of home computer market share.

Anyhow, Linux is a HUGE concern for Microsoft. Not in the desktop market share; home computing is over 90% Windows. Microsoft's struggle is in the server market. Linux is a huge threat to MS; just we don't see it on our computers at home and work doesn't mean it isn't there.

What Im talking about doesnt concern market share. Apple's mere existence as a second major corporation behind Microsoft in itself makes its existence important. To be honest no other single computer company has what Apple has and Microsoft knows it. Thats why we have Office for Mac, still, among other things. Microsoft could have easily just gobbled up Apple when it was in the tank during the mid 90's, but instead it chose to leave Apple alone and even continue making and improving programs of theirs for the MacOS platform. Its not very hard to see that Microsoft saw Apple as its only real way to avoid being broken up by the justice department as a monopoly. Linux probably has a larger overall user base than OSX does, however (like I said before), Linux lacks centralization and thus only represents a potential threat, like a bomb with an unlit fuse, instead of an active threat. If Linux users were to become united under one distrobution and one company, then and only then would they become a threat to Microsoft and even Apple's share of the consumer computer market.

[Sport1031]

Macs have a low performance for a high cost. You cant upgrade the parts like you can with a PC. The OS is no better than Windows. Compatibility is sometimes a problem. Macs are not faster than a PC. The one button mouse is confusing. Who puts the computer inside the monitor? All this ******** about PCs getting viruses and spyware, that's only for people who are real *******es. All you do is use Windows Firewall setup and run one of those free spyware/virus scan programs once a week and you're fine. That's what I do and I havn't had a single problem for the 2 years that I have had my own computer.

Oh, yeah. And Linux.... It sucks. Just look around. It's FREE and practically no one has it. Doesn't that tell you something?

Conclusion: PC/Windows WINS!!

[waynejkruse10]

Macs have a low performance for a high cost. You cant upgrade the parts like you can with a PC. The OS is no better than Windows. Compatibility is sometimes a problem. Macs are not faster than a PC. The one button mouse is confusing. Who puts the computer inside the monitor? All this ******** about PCs getting viruses and spyware, that's only for people who are real *******es. All you do is use Windows Firewall setup and run one of those free spyware/virus scan programs once a week and you're fine. That's what I do and I havn't had a single problem for the 2 years that I have had my own computer.

Have you ever used linux?

A Free os is a good thing isnt it?

And no, linux is used very widely. Linux runs over 80% of all web servers, in the server market its just so much superour to windows.

Another mindless mac/linux basher.....

[macdude425]

This guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about.

Originally posted by Sport1031
Oh, yeah. And Linux.... It sucks. Just look around. It's FREE and practically no one has it. Doesn't that tell you something?

Next time you are at Lowe's, look at one of their terminals. It will be running Linux.
Linux is also the server OS of choice.