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Old 06-05-2005, 01:24 AM   #121 (permalink)
 
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Again, IÂ’m not going to argue. Even if a Xerox engineer first invented the GUI, Apple put it on the map.

I realize Linux people are very defensive of Linux. IÂ’ve used Linux in both Macs and PCs, I thought it was pretty neat -- I just consider it way too flaky for a commercial network. When you maintain many machines, flaky doesnÂ’t cut it.

I also confess to using Win 2K Adv Servers, loaded in dual Pentium 4 machines, running PC MacLan Appletalk Print/File Server software, to network Macs with Windows machines. Again, because I really donÂ’t have time to mess around -- 2 days screwing with a PC costs more than a new one. The Win 2K Adv Server with Bulletproof FTP and Merak E-mail, using Diskeeper, System Mechanic, and a mirrored drive, for automatic maintenance, is fairly reliable except for viruses.

I usually map all the server drives to a network XP machine, set up a custom scan on the XP machine that includes the server drives, then let a standard install of Norton Anti-virus 2005 on the XP machine check and protect the server drives -- I consider server Anti-virus software a MAJOR rip-off. The Merak e-mail server totally eliminates any e-mail borne viruses.

I have yet to have to clean viruses out of any machine in a network I maintain, and except for occasional component failure, never have machines crash. I replace all Windows PCs after 5 years (assuming they last that long). Most of the Macs I maintain are upgraded machines between 4 and 12 years old (including a couple of Quadras with 400MHz G3 Sonnet processor upgrades). The Macs get a dose of Norton Utilities every year or two, and a desktop rebuild maybe twice a year (if theyÂ’re lucky). It takes about as much time per year to maintain one Windows PC as ten Macs...If it werenÂ’t for PCs, IÂ’d have to go out and find a real job.
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Please define "I just consider it way too flaky for a commercial network."
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it means linux has some sort of gross flaky skin disease
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He's talking about Linux being flaky.
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changes made, problem fixed.
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Please define "I just consider it way too flaky for a commercial network."
Interesting claim that really has no base. Linux is a very productive OS if you know how to use it. Many corporations create their own internal distros of Linux to run specialized computers/software so that they can maintain very tight control over the system, something Linux's open-source nature allows for. Not to mention that fact that Linux is a derviative of UNIX, which is the software that pretty much runs the internet (Im not talking file servers, Im talking backbones here, the real broad stuff).
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Mac OS X is also a derivative of Unix.

Since I actually do the Network Administration (including Web Server Administration) you only refer to hypothetically, and since I had hoped at one time Linux would reduce my work load -- which it didn't, just the opposite. I'll continue doing, while you continue theorizing and orating. I guess it's true "Those who can't do...Teach!".

Skin disease? What a dweeb!

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Linux is a complicated OS. You don't learn how to fully use it overnight.
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Well, Linux is complicated if you use it for complicated things. If you get a distro like Ubuntu, very easy to install and all you want to use it for is Word Processing, Internet Surfing and stuff its almost as easy to work with as Windows. Somehow i just dont see for simple things like Word Processing Linux is difficult to use.
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Linux is powerfull, you have much more control over it and its free. Its a scary thing to most, including me at times, because it is so emense but you can do a lot in it. It's not practical for the everyday user or word unless you get something like RedHat. Other then that it is widly used for servers at my dads office, he does web design, hosting and custom programing for a lot of companys. sej111 I dont think it was supposed to lighten it as much as make it much easyer and give you much more control.
As for Apples, for what they cost, meh. Over rated to me, and Intel now? What the dog house is going on with that?

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