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Old 02-16-2004, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Have dialup connection ,and home/office network.
Would like to add cable access as well for when travelling and is available.

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2 nics 1 for home/office network 1 to be used for occasional internet access(pcmcia)

Basically how to? succeed in doing this. windows does not seem to allow access ,when connected the connection icon disappears.



thanx for any assist
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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im not sure exactly what you are asking... but this website has about all you need for basic-intermediate stuff. http://www.wown.com

why not just take out the dial up and use highspeed? What i am hearing you ask doesnt make any sense to me but if you are a little more specific ill be glad to help you out.
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Old 02-16-2004, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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the dialup connection can be used anywhere, but if you use it outside of the area you wil be charged long distance. your wireless NIC for the laptop can only be used within about 150 feet of the access point.

it sounds to me like you have the wrong idea of how wireless networking works. you can't use it where ever you like in the world. for that you would want something like a satelite link using a cellular networking device.
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Old 02-16-2004, 06:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Allow me to clarify;

This has nothing to do with wireless.
I need 2 ways to connect to internet on a laptop,1 is a dialup..why?...say the location point is rural..no cable or dsl service available. dialup is all there is.
Other connection to be cable connection-via pcmcia nic card. For when at another location with access to cable modem.
Laptop onboard nic port is used for home/office network, which is reason for using pcmcia nic card as the second internet access.

is that a little more to go on?

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For the most part you should be able to use your primary Nic to log onto a Cable Modem, it will give you an IP and you should be set. You can set your internet options to dialup if it does not see the broadband connnection.
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What am I not saying properly?
The primary nic (onboard) is used for the home/office network, by workgroup. It refuses to connect directly to internet via cable modem.
Pc-card nic also refuses to connect via cable modem.
Connection icon disappears as soon as cable is connected,,to either nic.

Is there an answer to this,,or am I spitting in the wind.

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Ok, for starters, lets see if you are making any good connections at all. By default, the little network connection icon will disappear when a good connection is made. To change this, goto Start > Settings > Control Panel (or just Start > Control Panel) and then goto Network Connections. Find the onboard LAN adapter and/or the PCMCIA card and right-click and goto properties. At the bottomm there is a "Show icon in notification area when connected" check box. Make sure that these are checked for both adapters. Now, connect you cable and see if the notification area shows a connection and speed of connection when the cable has been connected.

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Powrbud i think we are having a hard time understanding what you are trying to do. your attempt to over-simplify your question is making it more confusing.

i think you have some kind of IP error or hardware setup incorrectly, since i don't know for sure i'll let these guys handle this. most of us are trying our best to help so don't get discouraged
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I see what youre asking...

1)Who is your dialup ISP?

If you are using AOL/or something to that effect, Open the program build 2 different connections ... one for dialup, and one for highspeed. In the future, When you start aol you can pick out of the drop down menu how you want to connect. If you pick Dialup... it will use yoru modem, if you pick highspeed, it will use your NIC. Each configuration is associated by your software to use the specified piece of hardware to connect.

2) You only need 1 NIC.

Why? If youre out and about you have 2 options:

1) you can plug into a router and open Internet Explorer Tools ->Internet Options ->Connections Tab and specify "never dial a connection"
Next, right click "network places" (in classic view on your destop) ->properties... right click "local area connection" select TCP/IP and go to properties. Select Obtail IP address automatically and select obtain DNS automatically. Done. Open IE and you should have internet.

2) If you choose to dialup: open Internet Explorer Tools ->Internet Options ->Connections Tab and select "Always dial a connection and it will dial your default connection.

If youre using AOL, you will have option to dialup or use highspeed from a drop down menu once you launch AOL.


At your home workgroup you said you need one NIC to connect to your home network (true) and it will not access broadband. Something in your workgroup, or configuration on your laptop isnt configured properly.

With that single built in NIC you should be able to plug right into your home workgroup and get broadband, Provided that the rest of your workgroup computers connect via broadband. There is no need to add another NIC. If you do you will be adding to the problem by throwing more hardware and connections into the mix that dont need to be there which will be more confusing to you.

Once you are on your home workgroup, plug into a router and set TCP/IP and DNS to auto detect settings as outlined above. It will obtain IP's from your router and you should be able to open IE and have internet and remain on your workgroup.

In a nutshell, all your workgroup computers plug into a router which goes out to broadband. Each computer in your workgroup has a unique computer name and the same workgroup name. All computers plugged into your router will have internet access. Tell me if your's is different.

What you are trying to do here isnt very difficult, but its just tricky learning how to manipulate your connections. Look here http://www.wown.com and get a good understanding on how connections/workgroups are setup

1) what is your Dialup ISP?
2) what browser do you use for dialup and for highspeed?
3) when you said you have one NIC plugged into your workgroup and you wanted one more for broadband, i assume you have broadband in your workgroup correct?
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All of the above, I am aware of, and this is why the "what the heck" was banging my head.

Home/office network uses dialup(sadly due to location),and workgroup stations(primary nic) access via ICS. And "Yikes" not AOL,,what is available to me is Marin Access which is 10 bucks a month.

When travelling away from the home office I often have the option of broadband connection. Secondary nic is used to connect to internet while still allowing connecting another computer to the primary nic. If I was not going to connect to another computer, yes then I could simply use the primary nic.

As it turns out my impatience at a time of frustration with my teenagers, and their hormonal imbalance allowed me to beat myself with the dummy stick. Seems the Broadband ISP that I was attempting to connect to was having difficulty on the very two days I had tried to logon. They have corrected the error, and replaced the cable modem as well; with a new model due to trouble they were having with the older ones.

Problem solved...

So....what can I say?

Except....thanks to those who took the time with this thread..

Peace.........
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