can this be done ?

allan16 · 03-11-2006, 04:30 PM

My computers ip address is private..it starts with 10.X.X.X. I just installed Apache and I will create a web page.....Since I have a private ip, can someone access that web page from internet....having my pc a as a server ? ??

thanks

jeremy · 03-11-2006, 04:44 PM

that 10.X.X.X is not your internet ip therfor no one can access it from the internet, as long as its connected to the internet and you provide the right ip (internet ip not that 10 one) to whoever you want connect to your server then he will be able to connect to your server at ease (as long as your firewall is configured right) , and as i alredy mentioned in your other thread you can simply use dynamic dns instead and give ppl a hostname and not an ip (easier to remember) , if your tryin to run a server from a non home pc (eg your pc at work) then it might not be possible at all , as in many corporates/universities/buisnesses theres only 1 computer directly connected to the internet with high bandwidth and all computers in the place shares it so none of em are directly connected to the internet. this is done as a security measure to prevent anyone from the outside to connect to the pc's as some may contain sensitive data

allan16 · 03-11-2006, 04:50 PM

yeah..I was doing it at work...and I had some problems....so now I want to try it at home....hopefully it will work....
I went to www.whatismyip.com and found my ip...is that the one I need ???

jeremy · 03-11-2006, 04:57 PM

if your not using a proxy in your browser , then it most likely your internet ip

allan16 · 03-11-2006, 05:04 PM

yeah..I'm not using any proxy at all........ !!!
Great !!!! so that is the ip address that I need to configured with dinamic dns right ??

Another thing....you talked about the firewall....is that if I have the firewall on my PC ...what specifications does it need to have ??

Thanks a lot

jeremy · 03-11-2006, 05:30 PM

can you please reask that in a more clear way? , anyway basicly you need to add the server program (apache in your case) to the firewall application list and give it server access (means access that allow others from the internet to remotly connect to it) and if your just using the windows xp builtin firewall then you need to define a rule that allows port 80 as incoming

allan16 · 03-11-2006, 05:37 PM

I don't have a firewall on my Pc......Where could I define the rule on Windows XP firewall ?

jeremy · 03-11-2006, 06:29 PM

technicly if you got the windows xp builtin firewall enabled then you do have a firewall a real lousy one but still , goto start-->settings-->network connections-->right click "local area network" if your directly connected to the internet (without a dialer) or right click the dialer if you arent and goto "advanced" tab and click "settings" (will be greyd out if you have the xp firewall disabled) tick "web server" click ok and again and thats it , if your not using any good firewall then youll better have at least the xp one enabled its unsafe to be with no firewall at all , but keep in mind the xp firewall is as said before "lousy" it can block only certain incoming ports and it have no application control whatsoever

allan16 · 03-11-2006, 06:39 PM

I did that and I get this error:

An error occurred while Internet connection sharing was being enabled. the dependency service or group failed to start

jeremy · 03-11-2006, 07:00 PM

you ticked the first box right?
you probably been playin with the services , goto start-->run-->services.msc find "Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" double click it and set "startup type" to "manual" and click ok. that should fix it

03-11-2006, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
allan16 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 357	can this be done ? My computers ip address is private..it starts with 10.X.X.X. I just installed Apache and I will create a web page.....Since I have a private ip, can someone access that web page from internet....having my pc a as a server ? ?? thanks

03-11-2006, 04:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
allan16 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 357	yeah..I was doing it at work...and I had some problems....so now I want to try it at home....hopefully it will work.... I went to www.whatismyip.com and found my ip...is that the one I need ??? __________________ _____________________ Real Estate Costa Rica

03-11-2006, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
allan16 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 357	yeah..I'm not using any proxy at all........ !!! Great !!!! so that is the ip address that I need to configured with dinamic dns right ?? Another thing....you talked about the firewall....is that if I have the firewall on my PC ...what specifications does it need to have ?? Thanks a lot __________________ _____________________ Real Estate Costa Rica

03-11-2006, 05:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
allan16 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 357	I don't have a firewall on my Pc......Where could I define the rule on Windows XP firewall ? __________________ _____________________ Real Estate Costa Rica

03-11-2006, 06:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
allan16 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 357	I did that and I get this error: An error occurred while Internet connection sharing was being enabled. the dependency service or group failed to start __________________ _____________________ Real Estate Costa Rica

03-11-2006, 04:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
jeremy Monster Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,537	that 10.X.X.X is not your internet ip therfor no one can access it from the internet, as long as its connected to the internet and you provide the right ip (internet ip not that 10 one) to whoever you want connect to your server then he will be able to connect to your server at ease (as long as your firewall is configured right) , and as i alredy mentioned in your other thread you can simply use dynamic dns instead and give ppl a hostname and not an ip (easier to remember) , if your tryin to run a server from a non home pc (eg your pc at work) then it might not be possible at all , as in many corporates/universities/buisnesses theres only 1 computer directly connected to the internet with high bandwidth and all computers in the place shares it so none of em are directly connected to the internet. this is done as a security measure to prevent anyone from the outside to connect to the pc's as some may contain sensitive data

03-11-2006, 04:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
jeremy Monster Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,537	if your not using a proxy in your browser , then it most likely your internet ip

03-11-2006, 05:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
jeremy Monster Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,537	can you please reask that in a more clear way? , anyway basicly you need to add the server program (apache in your case) to the firewall application list and give it server access (means access that allow others from the internet to remotly connect to it) and if your just using the windows xp builtin firewall then you need to define a rule that allows port 80 as incoming

03-11-2006, 06:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
jeremy Monster Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,537	technicly if you got the windows xp builtin firewall enabled then you do have a firewall a real lousy one but still , goto start-->settings-->network connections-->right click "local area network" if your directly connected to the internet (without a dialer) or right click the dialer if you arent and goto "advanced" tab and click "settings" (will be greyd out if you have the xp firewall disabled) tick "web server" click ok and again and thats it , if your not using any good firewall then youll better have at least the xp one enabled its unsafe to be with no firewall at all , but keep in mind the xp firewall is as said before "lousy" it can block only certain incoming ports and it have no application control whatsoever

03-11-2006, 07:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
jeremy Monster Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,537	you ticked the first box right? you probably been playin with the services , goto start-->run-->services.msc find "Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" double click it and set "startup type" to "manual" and click ok. that should fix it

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