Fedora Core 4 - Page 2

Tyler1989 · 06-09-2005, 01:07 PM

Delldude you should try buying something called Partition Magic it's a great piece of software. Fedora from my experience is better the Debian and Mandrake. Red Hat is by far the most popular now a days in my own opinion and Red Hat feeds off of Fedora's success. Fedora only requires 1 DVD so I am not sure why you are complaining 1 DVD is about 15 cents is it not? Or you could use a virtual drive...

macdude425 · 06-09-2005, 01:21 PM

It's not the money; it's that I can better use that one DVD and I can better use the time it takes to download the three install disks.

Tyler1989 · 06-09-2005, 01:25 PM

And you hate Fedora because you dont' like how it handles RPMs? Are the RPMs hard to work with in your opinion I had no problem with them? To be fair if you don't like it what do you recommend as a replacement for Fedora then Mandrake, Debian, SuSe, Red Hat, **** Small?

macdude425 · 06-09-2005, 01:34 PM

Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Slackware, Gentoo. I would also be willing to try SuSE again, since I haven't used it in a while.

Tyler1989 · 06-09-2005, 02:37 PM

Ok then for our scenario we are going to install Sun Java from Sun Microsystems for a Firefox browser. Your saying that slackware installs easier than fedora and debian? I doubt the rpm has issues I never had problems with it. What didn't work when you tried it.

macdude425 · 06-09-2005, 02:44 PM

Heck, the installer for Java that is non-RPM should be able to be used on any distro of Linux!!

In fact, I've used both installers at some time or another, and they both follow the same steps.

Tyler1989 · 06-09-2005, 03:00 PM

You keep saying screw red hat and RPM but you offered a solution to this "bad" redhat but you never offered an good alternative to RPM...

macdude425 · 06-09-2005, 03:10 PM

Then I will: source tarballs or the DEB packaging system.

Tyler1989 · 06-09-2005, 03:32 PM

I guess till I try debian I'll have to trust you wisdom thanks.

charles@pcfix · 06-09-2005, 09:33 PM

I have used Red Hat since....well I can't remember. But I would agree that the rpm is not always the way to go. I install and upgrade everything from source. In my opinion it is the only way because you have allot more control over what you are doing.
I think Fedora is a great project, but I'm not going to use it because I need an stable distro for what I do. We use RHE3 at work. It rocks. I use RH9 for a web server with no problems. I use slackware on an development and test box. It also rocks.
Fedora is great for you folks who just want Linux to use as a windows replacement. And are not worried about any critical data.
I have try-ed and tested FC1, 2 and 3. I just don't like it. I know thats not a reason that holds much merit, but thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

06-09-2005, 01:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tyler1989 Wizard Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,370	Delldude you should try buying something called Partition Magic it's a great piece of software. Fedora from my experience is better the Debian and Mandrake. Red Hat is by far the most popular now a days in my own opinion and Red Hat feeds off of Fedora's success. Fedora only requires 1 DVD so I am not sure why you are complaining 1 DVD is about 15 cents is it not? Or you could use a virtual drive... __________________ Vista Discussion \| 64 Bit Discussion \|Microsoft Homepage \| Yo Linux \| Paul Thurrott \| Fire Fox \| Thunder Bird \| Image Shack \| Photo Bucket \| Put File \| Anti-Spyware \| MS Anti-Spyware \| Trillian \| Anti-Virus \| On Line Virus Scan

06-09-2005, 01:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
macdude425 Member (again) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raul's Wild Kingdom...How 'bout that, huh? Posts: 4,197	It's not the money; it's that I can better use that one DVD and I can better use the time it takes to download the three install disks. __________________ Debian Support Forums!

06-09-2005, 01:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tyler1989 Wizard Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,370	And you hate Fedora because you dont' like how it handles RPMs? Are the RPMs hard to work with in your opinion I had no problem with them? To be fair if you don't like it what do you recommend as a replacement for Fedora then Mandrake, Debian, SuSe, Red Hat, **** Small? __________________ Vista Discussion \| 64 Bit Discussion \|Microsoft Homepage \| Yo Linux \| Paul Thurrott \| Fire Fox \| Thunder Bird \| Image Shack \| Photo Bucket \| Put File \| Anti-Spyware \| MS Anti-Spyware \| Trillian \| Anti-Virus \| On Line Virus Scan

06-09-2005, 01:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
macdude425 Member (again) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raul's Wild Kingdom...How 'bout that, huh? Posts: 4,197	Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva, Slackware, Gentoo. I would also be willing to try SuSE again, since I haven't used it in a while. __________________ Debian Support Forums!

06-09-2005, 02:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tyler1989 Wizard Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,370	Ok then for our scenario we are going to install Sun Java from Sun Microsystems for a Firefox browser. Your saying that slackware installs easier than fedora and debian? I doubt the rpm has issues I never had problems with it. What didn't work when you tried it. __________________ Vista Discussion \| 64 Bit Discussion \|Microsoft Homepage \| Yo Linux \| Paul Thurrott \| Fire Fox \| Thunder Bird \| Image Shack \| Photo Bucket \| Put File \| Anti-Spyware \| MS Anti-Spyware \| Trillian \| Anti-Virus \| On Line Virus Scan

06-09-2005, 02:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
macdude425 Member (again) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raul's Wild Kingdom...How 'bout that, huh? Posts: 4,197	Heck, the installer for Java that is non-RPM should be able to be used on any distro of Linux!! In fact, I've used both installers at some time or another, and they both follow the same steps. __________________ Debian Support Forums!

06-09-2005, 03:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tyler1989 Wizard Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,370	You keep saying screw red hat and RPM but you offered a solution to this "bad" redhat but you never offered an good alternative to RPM... __________________ Vista Discussion \| 64 Bit Discussion \|Microsoft Homepage \| Yo Linux \| Paul Thurrott \| Fire Fox \| Thunder Bird \| Image Shack \| Photo Bucket \| Put File \| Anti-Spyware \| MS Anti-Spyware \| Trillian \| Anti-Virus \| On Line Virus Scan

06-09-2005, 03:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
macdude425 Member (again) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Raul's Wild Kingdom...How 'bout that, huh? Posts: 4,197	Then I will: source tarballs or the DEB packaging system. __________________ Debian Support Forums!

06-09-2005, 03:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
Tyler1989 Wizard Techie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,370	I guess till I try debian I'll have to trust you wisdom thanks. __________________ Vista Discussion \| 64 Bit Discussion \|Microsoft Homepage \| Yo Linux \| Paul Thurrott \| Fire Fox \| Thunder Bird \| Image Shack \| Photo Bucket \| Put File \| Anti-Spyware \| MS Anti-Spyware \| Trillian \| Anti-Virus \| On Line Virus Scan

06-09-2005, 09:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
charles@pcfix Junior Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 94	I have used Red Hat since....well I can't remember. But I would agree that the rpm is not always the way to go. I install and upgrade everything from source. In my opinion it is the only way because you have allot more control over what you are doing. I think Fedora is a great project, but I'm not going to use it because I need an stable distro for what I do. We use RHE3 at work. It rocks. I use RH9 for a web server with no problems. I use slackware on an development and test box. It also rocks. Fedora is great for you folks who just want Linux to use as a windows replacement. And are not worried about any critical data. I have try-ed and tested FC1, 2 and 3. I just don't like it. I know thats not a reason that holds much merit, but thats my story and I'm sticking to it. __________________ Charles Visit my Site http://www.pc-fix.info

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