BS in computer information systems?

slick4788 · 06-27-2004, 07:39 PM

I'm in highschool just researching some BS stuff here and there. What exactly is computer information systems? Is it a lot of programming? I can do programming but I don't want to to do it all day. What do CIS guys do? What kind of jobs do you get with a CIS degree?
Thnx

beedubaya · 06-27-2004, 07:59 PM

CIS is a broad field that includes programmers, network administrators, information specialists, tech support, web design, and others.

slick4788 · 06-28-2004, 12:22 AM

What's the difference between the computer science degree and computer information systems?

blacktop89 · 07-01-2004, 01:11 PM

haha, the amount of math you take!!!!

bla!! · 07-01-2004, 04:25 PM

I've got friends in both fields.

CIS Seems to be more oriented towards the management end of computer systems. For instance you could become a leader of an ITS team or the manager of an IT dept.

Computer Science is a degree that will get you into a programming position. You'll learn many computer languages like Java, C, C++, SQL, VB and many more. You'll probably learn some of these in your CIS degree too.

As far as the class requirements, more than likely your first 3 years in both degrees will be very similar. Get your prerequisites out of the way along with some light programming courses. Then you'll begin to split as the CIS degree goes into management classes and applied computing while the BS in CS goes into advanced programming like computing theory and AI.

Larry · 07-01-2004, 10:34 PM

I believe bla!! is correct (more or less)

some schools call it MIS (management information systems), which is in the business school.

and CS (computer science), which is in the science school.

MIS, being in the business school has programming, but also learning about information technology and how to manage it.
CS, I believe is more about programing and more 'enginerring' or technical stuff.

check out this site
http://www.computer-technology-schools.com

Stinky20 · 07-04-2004, 01:45 AM

Hey Everyone,

Recently I've been reading and hearing that a lot of the IT and tech jobs are being out-sourced to India. Also some of my professors in some programming classes say that the classes are smaller b/c no one wants an IT job b/c they are all going overseas.

With all of this outsourcing happening & the economy being down which is better to get a B.S in either MIS or CS??

Larry · 07-04-2004, 11:18 PM

while it is true that 'out sourcing' to other countries have increased... that does not mean jobs here are less, but if it DOES mean jobs are less here.. THEN you need a MIS degree.

why?

If a company is sending 'programming' work overseas.... you NEED someone to manage it. The communication barrier IS VERY hard to deal with, much less ALL the problems that can happen on a project.

BUT, I believe this 'outsourcing' is not as beneficial as once thougth. While your man hour cost per hour goes down.. .OTHER cost rise!!

really, you should not base your decision on outsourcing or the economy. BOTH degrees are in demand BUT also read this thread:

Memory-Playerworlds Help

good luck

Stinky20 · 07-05-2004, 11:31 PM

If I get a degree in MIS what kinds of jobs will i be doing in the field fresh out of college and what would be the starting salary??

Should I get any special certifications??

Where/How should I start to look for an internship??

Larry · 07-06-2004, 02:05 AM

IMO, figure out "WHAT do you WANT to be doing... as in the jobs/fields out of college?"

back in 95, my starting salary was 32k (consulting)
have no idea what people are making now???

certifications depend on you goals or your employers goals/requirements.

internship... start now, look for something good!!

but one thing you need to ask yourself...
do you want a Job or a Career?

there is a BIG difference

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06-28-2004, 12:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
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Larry Administrator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,393	I believe bla!! is correct (more or less) some schools call it MIS (management information systems), which is in the business school. and CS (computer science), which is in the science school. MIS, being in the business school has programming, but also learning about information technology and how to manage it. CS, I believe is more about programing and more 'enginerring' or technical stuff. check out this site http://www.computer-technology-schools.com

07-04-2004, 01:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Stinky20 Newb Techie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3	Hey Everyone, Recently I've been reading and hearing that a lot of the IT and tech jobs are being out-sourced to India. Also some of my professors in some programming classes say that the classes are smaller b/c no one wants an IT job b/c they are all going overseas. With all of this outsourcing happening & the economy being down which is better to get a B.S in either MIS or CS??

07-04-2004, 11:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Larry Administrator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,393	while it is true that 'out sourcing' to other countries have increased... that does not mean jobs here are less, but if it DOES mean jobs are less here.. THEN you need a MIS degree. why? If a company is sending 'programming' work overseas.... you NEED someone to manage it. The communication barrier IS VERY hard to deal with, much less ALL the problems that can happen on a project. BUT, I believe this 'outsourcing' is not as beneficial as once thougth. While your man hour cost per hour goes down.. .OTHER cost rise!! really, you should not base your decision on outsourcing or the economy. BOTH degrees are in demand BUT also read this thread: Memory-Playerworlds Help good luck

07-05-2004, 11:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Stinky20 Newb Techie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3	If I get a degree in MIS what kinds of jobs will i be doing in the field fresh out of college and what would be the starting salary?? Should I get any special certifications?? Where/How should I start to look for an internship??

07-06-2004, 02:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
Larry Administrator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,393	IMO, figure out "WHAT do you WANT to be doing... as in the jobs/fields out of college?" back in 95, my starting salary was 32k (consulting) have no idea what people are making now??? certifications depend on you goals or your employers goals/requirements. internship... start now, look for something good!! but one thing you need to ask yourself... do you want a Job or a Career? there is a BIG difference