[Technoob]

I have spent so many hours on WoW. WoW is probably the best game out there. Certainly the most addictive in my opinion.

[Druid]

Well, I think we're just talking jrps, right? I know dragon age is not a jrpg, and I'm not sure about the others.

Yeah, WoW is not a good game. MMO's are not good games period. For most people, the sole driving force is out leveling and outgearing the next guy in order to be able to beat him in a fight. If it wasn't for the fact that there was one out there set in Middle Earth, I would not be an MMO player.

And yeah, I just started up FFXII again today, and I'm pretty near the end I think. Unfortunately the story is a bit ruined because I don't really know what is going on.

[yosa]

Rpgs are fabulous, I keep a library from Aethra to Oblivion; I agree with druid's sentiment on mmo's.

[Druid]

I do like them more than Oblivion though. That game made me sooooooo bored. My friend's brother must have almost 2k hours on it by now though with all the mods and such. I don't think he's actually completed the main story yet lol. I just can't play a game with that much content. i hear stories about people playing it for 300 hours without the mods, and that is much too much.

[Keyboard Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Druid

Well, we'll always have final fantasy at least, even if they are taking forever to bring them out now.

The thing I don't like about FF series a lot of the asian RPGs is there combat systems. Sure the cinematics for the combat are nice eye candy as you see the character pose and unleash there attacks. However the combat is very much like playing a game of tennis where it's....
Your throw a punch at NPC
NPC throws a punch back
Your throw a punch at NPC
NPC throws a punch back
Your throw a punch at NPC
NPC throws a punch back etc etc etc

However with that being said, the combat system that was with Grandia II was rather enjoyable they did allow character to move around the battlefield mid combat. And depending on where you where can change the out come of the battle.
Unlike FF and a many others where you have
FRONT ROW :- More Attack Damage, Less Defence
BACK ROW :- More Defence, Less Attack Damage
And this is some thing you could not change mid fight.

Originally Posted by Technoob

I have spent so many hours on WoW. WoW is probably the best game out there. Certainly the most addictive in my opinion.

I would not call WOW (or any other MMORPG) an RPG.

Main reason is this. What you do has no effect on the rest of the world.
Does not mater now many times you kill the the Lich King, he's still going to be there tomorrow (or next week) when you run the instance again.
Unlike Fall Out 3. I can walk into Megaton and kill every one there, and in doing so, I just made thing much harder on myself as Megaton is the first city you start leveling up in and I am not going to need to rely on othr location for food, supplies and ammo. There fore my action did make a change on the rest of the world. It's not like I can walk out side of megaton and reset in the instances and walk back in again and find every one alive again.

In an RPG, when you die, you are dead. None of this respawn as a ghost and retreive your body and gear with some sort of death penalty and continue your progress. You are dead. The only exception to this that I can think of is Eve Online where Death is very unforgiving. Sure, you have clones and insurance. But still that will kick you around alot.

[Druid]

If FFXII all you have to do is move your character around and watch . The gambit system acts as a simple 'if then' program that will make your characters respond to different battle conditions accordingly. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!

[Keyboard Cowboy]

Problem is this. If I was in a fight in a bar, then I would not be standing around in a cool pose waiting for the other people to hit me.

[Druid]

Yeah, that is how it is in most ff games, but you must not have played 12. There are no random battles and you aren't standing around waiting. All your guys run up the enemy and surround him and attack whenever their gauge fills up or heal or whatever the situation dictates. It's not like the other ones.