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Old 10-11-2006, 10:17 PM   #51 (permalink)
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honestly I think it sounds better then just being flatlined. and I like having good highs and low basses.

So if this is my preference in audio would this or would it not be a proper setting for my EQ?????
No, he was joking. That kind of EQ will make the bass loud and bloated and the highs loud and shrill, and the midrange recessed.

If possible you really don't want any EQ.
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No, he was joking. That kind of EQ will make the bass loud and bloated and the highs loud and shrill, and the midrange recessed.

If possible you really don't want any EQ.
kinda like the audigy 2. right?

to those who don't know I'm joking
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:12 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Lol, I bet most of you don't even understand what I said about resampling and stopped reading it because it was just confusing you!

But if you stop and think, you will realize it is in fact basic math. It you want to argue with it, I suggest you first restart your K-12 career and then look at it again.

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kinda like the audigy 2. right?

to those who don't know I'm joking
Note how he still dosn't answer my question but instead trys to shake it off by throwing a back-handed insult at me.
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Lol, I bet most of you don't even understand what I said about resampling and stopped reading it because it was just confusing you!

But if you stop and think, you will realize it is in fact basic math. It you want to argue with it, I suggest you first restart your K-12 career and then look at it again.

I'm out of here.

Nah I read what you guys had to offer, and Some of it went straight over my head and some of it made perfect sense.
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Lol, I bet most of you don't even understand what I said about resampling and stopped reading it because it was just confusing you!

But if you stop and think, you will realize it is in fact basic math. It you want to argue with it, I suggest you first restart your K-12 career and then look at it again.

I'm out of here.


Note how he still dosn't answer my question but instead trys to shake it off by throwing a back-handed insult at me.
bye.

you keep talking math while we are talking sound (actual listening). that is what you don't get
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you keep talking math while we are talking sound (actual listening). that is what you don't get
No, I had to resort to math because you kept on pushing that the audigy 2 did not resample, then after I kept on you changed your statement and said that ok it does resample but resampling does not effect sound quality.

So I showed you with basic math, that yes, it does result in a quality loss.

Once I proved you were wrong, you began throwing insults at me and tried to dismiss what I said.

And to top it off, you STILL have not shown me where creative said that the Audigy2 does not resample.

And no, the quality loss is not just in numbers. It is easily heard when you compare to a sound card with real sound quality.

But you won't hear the difference (or it will be masked and very hard to hear) unless you disable all software resampling *cough*EQ*cough* and bypass the KMixer with ASIO output.
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this what you keep missing. I'm telling you that it's about how it sound to the ear.

fvck a number. you are stuck on the psychosis thing

I'm not even going to respond to the email thing. I ask exactly what you said last time. i even pointed him to the link. then he said that it bypass that, which is what i was saying all along
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well now I know. I personally thoug it sounded better.

But of course I cant be one to talk because I am running on onboard sound with a set of basic dell speakers and my rooms stereo split off of the line out LOL
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God, I'll let Crysalis explain it this time. I figured everyone knew I was joking.

WAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I am literally ROLLING laughing!


Yea... so basically what your doing now, 003, is trying to redeem yourself. Now you are trying to act all "I r teh smart". See, you are speaking to 2 professionals (one certified... maybe two IDK if eric is or not). I love the fact that you are trying to act like a 'For Dummies...' book to us. All of this information is nothing new. You are also speaking agaist a few consumers (thank you for your support) that also agree and they don't even know the complete facts.

You are correct in that samples are added to resample to 48khz. But, what frequencies are those samples at? There is really no reason for us to even sample at 44.1k because we can't hear over 20k. I can get into all of the math about how it needs to be doubled, but that doesn't really matter. The human ear can not possibly hear the difference from 44.1khz to 48khz back to back. You are talking only 3900 more samples per second added to the already insane 44,100 samples. It would be different if it were 44.1khz to 96 (which isn't even integrated into anything yet sample rate wise). We only know its different because of meters and oscilloscopes.

This is honestly ridiculous. Which is why I haven't been posting much in this thread. I can only type this crap so many times before I'm basically copying and pasting.

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Lanec - The reason the U-shaped EQ is bad is because that isn't how its supposed to sound. The proper way to EQ is to know the exact efficiencies and defficiences (SP??) of your speakers and you use an EQ to make up for those to get as flat as a response as possible.

EDIT: This is what I know from my training in recording. Live sound reinforcement is different in terms of EQ. This is generally not a normal practice (although it should be) for everyday people. If every speaker were EXACTLY the same in EXACTLY the same box with the EXACT same EVERYTHING (amp, EVERYTHING), you wouldn't need an equalizer on equipment. You would only need it during mixing of a song.

EQ for consumers is really just to customize sound to your liking. If you like it in a U, go for it. As for me, that would drive me BONKERS.

Enuff said.
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