Copying DVD's...legal?

Timaphillips · 12-05-2007, 01:48 PM

I know it's legal to copy home video DVD's. But the question that I just can't find a definitive answer to is if you can legally copy commercial copy-write encrypted DVD's that you already own for personal use....i.e.: copy a DVD, format it and put it onto my iPod touch. Anybody???????

motoxer4533 · 12-05-2007, 01:52 PM

It's an ongoing question. If you want them, just use a program like DVD Shrink to rip it to your HD and use a program like SUPER to convert it then copy it to your iPod.

eyeCpc · 12-05-2007, 01:57 PM

Software companies. movie companies, musicians even know people make backup copies of protected materials but discussion of it isn't allowed here. Rule #5 http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f66/an...rum-rules.html

Timaphillips · 12-05-2007, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeCpc

Software companies. movie companies, musicians even know people make backup copies of protected materials but discussion of it isn't allowed here. Rule #5 http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f66/an...rum-rules.html

My bad guys. But that begs the question (off topic I know): Where else am I supposed to get this info. if I can't even turn to the forums to for answers. Forums are the lifeline of that trendy little buzzword "web 2.0."

I can easily find "how" to copy DVD's. I just want to know "if," I can.

atomic tofu · 12-05-2007, 02:29 PM

ok....let me see if I can help

simple answer to your question...you cannot legally copy a commercial DVD which is encrypted.

You can copy a commercial dvd, if you do not try to circumvent it's protection scheme...but chances are you won't be able to copy or play it, lol.

I used to be a proponent of "if they say we can't, then we shouldn't". But I have a ton of legally purchased DVDs, I expect to be able to view and use them for my OWN personal use, how I feel.

Now that is a far cry from many here and everywhere else, who think they can do what they will, how they will, and not just for their own personal use. Ie., copy and mass distribute and/or profit.

So, what you believe is what you believe, not neccessarily what you do

. So long as we are talking about perceptions, ideals and opinions, it is wholely acceptable and not against "any rules" at least I think.

Recap....it is not legal for us to copy commercial dvds, which we own, that have copy protection. Even if it is for our own private use.

Can you legally copy DVDs? - CNET reviews

Timaphillips · 12-05-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomic tofu

ok....let me see if I can help

simple answer to your question...you cannot legally copy a commercial DVD which is encrypted.

You can copy a commercial dvd, if you do not try to circumvent it's protection scheme...but chances are you won't be able to copy or play it, lol.

I used to be a proponent of "if they say we can't, then we shouldn't". But I have a ton of legally purchased DVDs, I expect to be able to view and use them for my OWN personal use, how I feel.

Now that is a far cry from many here and everywhere else, who think they can do what they will, how they will, and not just for their own personal use. Ie., copy and mass distribute and/or profit.

So, what you believe is what you believe, not neccessarily what you do

. So long as we are talking about perceptions, ideals and opinions, it is wholely acceptable and not against "any rules" at least I think.

Recap....it is not legal for us to copy commercial dvds, which we own, that have copy protection. Even if it is for our own private use.

Can you legally copy DVDs? - CNET reviews

Exactly what I thought. Thanks.

By the way, it is a known fact that Bill Gates has his entire movie/CD collection on a server in his house which he can call up at any time in any room. I wonder how the world's richest man feels about backing up for personal use.....

I don't want to go against the forum rules here, so this will be my last post in this thread.

MetalOwns · 12-05-2007, 02:37 PM

As long as your not putting them up somewhere for someone else to download them (IE: p2p, bittorrent, ect), then you'll be fine. There's a loophole that allows you to legally copy your DVDs for backup.

Like I always like to say, If you don't get caught, everything is legal.

veedubfreak · 12-05-2007, 05:58 PM

Call up the MPAA im sure they can help you out. But even making backups is technically illegal due to circumventing the copy protection.

EricB · 12-06-2007, 10:33 PM

I don't know the ruling now, but 4 year, you could copy your own dvd for personal use. I know that some new rulings have been made, but I don't know if any ruling affect this one

atomic tofu · 12-07-2007, 03:02 PM

here's something a little more recent

Ripping DVDs may never be the same again | Perspectives | CNET News.com

12-05-2007, 01:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Timaphillips True Techie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 236	Copying DVD's...legal? I know it's legal to copy home video DVD's. But the question that I just can't find a definitive answer to is if you can legally copy commercial copy-write encrypted DVD's that you already own for personal use....i.e.: copy a DVD, format it and put it onto my iPod touch. Anybody???????

12-05-2007, 01:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
motoxer4533 Try again! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 905	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? It's an ongoing question. If you want them, just use a program like DVD Shrink to rip it to your HD and use a program like SUPER to convert it then copy it to your iPod. __________________ Like Golf? Want to improve your game and overall fitness level? Head to The Perfect Balance Swing and Fitness System

12-05-2007, 01:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
eyeCpc Monster Techie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,357	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? Software companies. movie companies, musicians even know people make backup copies of protected materials but discussion of it isn't allowed here. Rule #5 http://www.tech-forums.net/pc/f66/an...rum-rules.html

12-05-2007, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
atomic tofu Normal average person Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,595	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? ok....let me see if I can help simple answer to your question...you cannot legally copy a commercial DVD which is encrypted. You can copy a commercial dvd, if you do not try to circumvent it's protection scheme...but chances are you won't be able to copy or play it, lol. I used to be a proponent of "if they say we can't, then we shouldn't". But I have a ton of legally purchased DVDs, I expect to be able to view and use them for my OWN personal use, how I feel. Now that is a far cry from many here and everywhere else, who think they can do what they will, how they will, and not just for their own personal use. Ie., copy and mass distribute and/or profit. So, what you believe is what you believe, not neccessarily what you do . So long as we are talking about perceptions, ideals and opinions, it is wholely acceptable and not against "any rules" at least I think. Recap....it is not legal for us to copy commercial dvds, which we own, that have copy protection. Even if it is for our own private use. Can you legally copy DVDs? - CNET reviews __________________ In this day and age, with all the ugliness in the real world that surrounds us, we should leave all the pretentiousness aside on anonymous forums.

12-05-2007, 02:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
MetalOwns Super Techie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Franklin, WI Posts: 428	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? As long as your not putting them up somewhere for someone else to download them (IE: p2p, bittorrent, ect), then you'll be fine. There's a loophole that allows you to legally copy your DVDs for backup. Like I always like to say, If you don't get caught, everything is legal. __________________ SYSTEM: RAIDMAX SMILODON Case LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS Intel Core2Duo E6600 (2.40) @ OC'ing 2 gigs G.Skill DDR2 800 RAM @ OC'ing 2x 320 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (RAID 0) EVGA Ge-Force 7900 GS KO @ 710/985 @ 1.48v/2.20v LITE-ON 20x DVD+/-R Burner/12x DVD-RAM w/ LightScribe LITE-ON 48x CD Burner/16x DVD-ROM Hanns·G 19" Widescreen LCD Windows Vista Ultimate Edition

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12-06-2007, 10:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
EricB Hard Core Techie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,915	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? I don't know the ruling now, but 4 year, you could copy your own dvd for personal use. I know that some new rulings have been made, but I don't know if any ruling affect this one __________________ The Ultimate Hard Drive Utility PowerMax 4.23. (It now has the ability to clean a Boot Sector virus on the quick erase option.) The best browser Netscape 8 Have you accidently delete something? Look here (trial. the better one) and here(free)

12-07-2007, 03:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
atomic tofu Normal average person Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,595	Re: Copying DVD's...legal? here's something a little more recent Ripping DVDs may never be the same again \| Perspectives \| CNET News.com __________________ In this day and age, with all the ugliness in the real world that surrounds us, we should leave all the pretentiousness aside on anonymous forums.

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