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Old 01-05-2006, 01:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Which web markup language should be tought to a new student............

I want to learn a web markup language.
But cannot understand which one to go for:-
XML, HTML, SGML, XHTML, or any other........

Or just tell me in which order do I have to learn all of them.

I would appereciate any help...
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Be easy on a new bie..........
You all had to start somewhere......... somehow..........
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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This order would be the best
HTML<-(SGML) CSS DHTML JScript Webbot ActionScript(Flash) MySQL\PHP XML XHTML JAVA

Java is not a markup language but is usually used as an online app.
Flash has a programming language called ActionScript in the version 2.0 which is like any programming language but it is interpreted like java because it can be decompiled. MySQL\PHP should go with XML since most xml is generated by a database. XHTML is just html with xml application. JScript is a probramming language that extends HTML greatly. DHTML is a light programming language. CSS also extends HTML but not the extent of JScript which deems it safer to execute and is not blocked out by many security protocols. Webbot is another language that is not very known but its biggest use seems to change people's homepages. You can also look accessing activex controls. You should also learn the W3C conformity, but thats not necessary since really nobody conforms since nobody displays the w3c conformity labels.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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start with xhtml/css. dont bother with html as it is going to be replaced by xhtml.
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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You should also learn the W3C conformity, but thats not necessary since really nobody conforms since nobody displays the w3c conformity labels.
Just because they don't display the logos it doesn't mean the site doesn't conform. Many of the newer versions of forum software claim to conform to a particular standard - look at the doctype in the source. My site conforms to xhtml 1.1, but I don't see the need to put those ugly yellow logos on it, knowing that it will work for all browsers including text based is good enough for me
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Yeah, xhtml is html but with a refined code.

I prefer xhtml because using it makes everything in the source look much neater, as in clean, because you have to conform to certain rules. Such as, no uppercase in any of the syntax and such, closing tags on the end instead of being able to leave them open the whole time.
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But dont you think that :
HTML is still being used most widely around the world for web page formatting.
And are there any web pages that are written on XHTML(give me a link). Just wanna see the difference. If there is any. Or XHTML is just better for the ease of the programmer.
Well, I want to have the ability to understan the code of the pages that I view. So maybe I would like to go for HTML first.

Pleaseeeeee,
just give me one big reason to go directly for XHTML.
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Old 01-06-2006, 04:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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And yeah.....
Why does one have to learn a markup language when there are already softwares that can create web pages?
Like ms word, photoshop, and a lots more softwares can be used to create web pages easily.
Is it even important for a computer engineer to learn such a language.
Just give me a reason............
Thanks....in advance........................
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Old 01-06-2006, 05:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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The code ms word and frontpage produces is terrible and probably only works with internet explorer.

Yes HTML is still widely used and there are many poorly coded sites out there, but this is slowly starting to change. More and more people are starting to follow the standards.

The idea is that styling should be separated from content, the html page should contain the structure and content of the document and a separate css file used to give it formatting. This has many advantages three being there is no duplication of code, rather than set the font in every

element it can be done once in a css file. It also allows for alternate stylesheets, one for the screen and a simple one for use when printing out. It makes it easier for your server, separating the style makes your html files smaller so less bandwidth is used - because the stylesheet is only downloaded once
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Old 01-06-2006, 07:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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OH.
I get it.
Iguess, I should really go for the standard XHTML.
Thanks.........
You sorted all my confusions and questions....................
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