[Nasky]

Hi there !

It's my first message on the board and it deals with RAD for C++ programming. Actually, i'm a student and i got to build a C++ program working on VisualC++. The file downloaded on the MSDN (available only for students) doesn't seem to work.
So i heard about Visual C++ Express 2005. I've downloaded the file and i am trying to get it install but i am awaiting for 7 hours and the progress bar isn't moving on ... Well, i'll be patient...
Yet, in the case it wouldn't work, is there any RAD that i can use to make my C++ project and of course for free.

Actually, I don't care of VisualC++ but the teacher stressed that our program must work with it. So do you think I can use another free RAD to make the program that keeps working with VisualC++ ?
It would be nice and help me to go on with my project.

Regards
Nas'

[baronvongogo]

what is RAD?

EDIT: rapid application enviroment should have googled first

and an alternative to visual c++ is bloodshed dev c++ link below:

http://www.bloodshed.net/download.html

[Nasky]

Thank you for you answer.
But actually, a RAD and an IDE, it's not the same thing. DevC++ is an IDE which means you can't "draw" your user interface, you have to write every line on your own.
VisualC++ is a RAD so that you can build your user interface as if you were drawing it over paintshop. For example, another famous RAD is Borland BuilderC++.

Well, in fact, I succeeded in installing VisualC++ Express edition. The issue is that I didn't know that the MFCs don't work with this edition. So it is not really useful to me...
I have to get another free RAD. Otherwise, i'll try to install VisualC++ (pro edition). Actually, I haven't tried to do it yet because it is on 2 ISO image and I don't have a burner. I could install other Microsoft products because they are on just one ISO so that I could open the file with WinRAR and then launch the setup. I don't think it's gonna work if there are 2 ISO image... Do you think I should try ?

Thanks

[baronvongogo]

Use something like daemon tools mount the .ISO image when its installing it`ll just ask for cd2 then un mount the image and mount .ISO cd2.

I was not aware of the MFC its always good to learn new things so thankyou for that.

[jaeusm]

VisualC++ is a RAD

Technically, Visual Studio is an IDE that has RAD tools.

[Nasky]

Thank you for the precision, I didn't know

And thank you for the Daemon tools. I didn't know that either. So I've just downloaded it. I'll download the ISO images and hope i'll get it work.
I come back if there's any trouble

Thanks guys

[m3trj]

Does RAD not stand for Rapid Application Development? It's not an IDE, it's a methodology for development, based on prototyping.

[Nasky]

Yes it does and it's exactly what i've said about it

Thanks a lot Baronvongogo for Daemon tools. It solved my problem and I could install Visual Studio 2005.