[revenge2]

hello, im just wondering what would be a good and easy "advanced"programming language learn. and i emphasize the "easy"

-thanks

[jaeusm]

There really is no such thing as an 'advanced' programming language. Just pick one and learn it thoroughly. You can write 'advanced' software in nearly any language. If you're just starting out, I'd recommend Python.

[iambrian]

Also, you can try out using Visual Basic. I dont know what the most current language they use is, but at school, it is C++. Now, it is not the most popular language anymore because they use other things, but it will give you a starting point with tons of tutorials of the feel of writing code.

[jonmon6691]

call me crazy but i think perl offers the best insight on programing basics like for if then variables and so on. That an python which i havnt gotten around to looking at but i hear good things.

[revenge2]

yeah i chekd out python and c++, the tutorials an all, but c...they just start off immediately giving me instructions on what to do
for eg, "hello world" i get that but it doesnt exactly tell you clearly what the code does...

[jaeusm]

call me crazy but i think perl offers the best insight on programing basics

You're crazy
Perl is a bit cryptic for a beginner.

yeah i chekd out python and c++, the tutorials an all, but c...they just start off immediately giving me instructions on what to do

Go for python tutorials -- or better yet, books. You can do C or C++, but you'll have to learn more before you can start being productive. In a couple days with python, you'll be surprisingly productive.

for eg, "hello world" i get that but it doesnt exactly tell you clearly what the code does...

Sometimes when first learning a language, you have to accept that some things just work until you have learned a sufficient amount to comprehend what is actually happening. I've never been a big fan of online tutorials. I'd check amazon for book reviews and purchase a good book on whatever language you want to learn. If you would like to see what books other people at this forum have used to learn certain programming languages, just ask.

[revenge2]

Go for python tutorials -- or better yet, books. You can do C or C++, but you'll have to learn more before you can start being productive. In a couple days with python, you'll be surprisingly productive.

im trying out python but i cant get hold of a compiler, anyone know where i can find one>

[jaeusm]

www.python.org

Make sure you get a good resource for a tutorial -- one that explains how to use and set up a development environment.

[revenge2]

hello this is probably a very stupid question but where should i start?
there is alot and it is some what confusing and a little intimidating

it says it can be used for(in python)

databases
xml
ide's
cgi
gui
msql

and so on....

where should i start and which should be appropriate
-thanks

[jaeusm]

Follow this tutorial. It may seem a bit long, but just do a little bit at a time. It's broken up into chapters, and was originally written by the man who created python: http://docs.python.org/tut/