can i design java applications in MS development Environment 2003

rookie1010 · 10-28-2006, 09:30 PM

Hello

Can i design java applications in MS development Environment 2003?

jaeusm · 10-29-2006, 01:25 AM

You can develop J# applications in Visual Studio. As long as you don't reference .Net libraries, you can probably use the JDK to compile the same source code, and thus have a real Java program.

rookie1010 · 10-29-2006, 10:21 AM

thanks for the reply

so i can access the JDK from within the MS Dev 2003?

hillbillybob · 10-30-2006, 01:56 AM

Due to liscensing issues....no. You cannot access the JDK from "inside" VS 2003. You still have to use the command line.

rookie1010 · 10-30-2006, 10:14 AM

thanks for the reply

thsi is sun keeping microsoft out of the java business, correct?

hillbillybob · 10-30-2006, 04:14 PM

Way back when, and I can't remember when, but it was between VS 6.0 and VS .NET....Sun and Microsoft had a Row over the availability of Java in VS. That's why you can only use J#, not Java. I don't know the details of it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that Sun doesn't want MS in the java business, as to say that MS can no longer market anything under or with the "Java" name. I would imagine this is in part because IBM has their JVM, and MS was wanting their JVM. IBM was adhering to and communicating with/contributing to the Java community. MS wanted to create their own verison of the JVM, with out Sun in on it.

rookie1010 · 11-01-2006, 08:33 PM

thanks for the reply

i came across IBM JVM
, i thought that since Sun came up with Java, the only JVM would be from Sun?

what is the difference between IBM and Sun JVM?

hillbillybob · 11-01-2006, 09:17 PM

Ya know, I couldn't tell you. On a class-by-class basis, I don't know. I imagine IBM came out with their JVM in part because the were/are the biggest corporate backer in the Eclipse project. It is an ECMA standard, to my recollection.

Kinda like Novell and Mono...with C# being an ECMA standard, Novell and a community took some initiative and ported .NET and C# to the *nix platforms (Unix, Linux, Mac OS X, and even Windows) So now with something like 98% compatibility .NET programmers can compile their code to run on Mono too.

rookie1010 · 11-04-2006, 08:18 PM

thanks for the reply

what is an ECMA standard?

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hillbillybob Super Techie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 341	Way back when, and I can't remember when, but it was between VS 6.0 and VS .NET....Sun and Microsoft had a Row over the availability of Java in VS. That's why you can only use J#, not Java. I don't know the details of it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that Sun doesn't want MS in the java business, as to say that MS can no longer market anything under or with the "Java" name. I would imagine this is in part because IBM has their JVM, and MS was wanting their JVM. IBM was adhering to and communicating with/contributing to the Java community. MS wanted to create their own verison of the JVM, with out Sun in on it. __________________ The greatest measure of a nation is not it\'s army or economy, but by how many people are trying to get in, and how many people are staying!! Guns, Guts, and Alcohol made America free. Born American, Die American Ubuntu - it\'s all about the bun\'s baby!!!

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hillbillybob Super Techie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 341	Ya know, I couldn't tell you. On a class-by-class basis, I don't know. I imagine IBM came out with their JVM in part because the were/are the biggest corporate backer in the Eclipse project. It is an ECMA standard, to my recollection. Kinda like Novell and Mono...with C# being an ECMA standard, Novell and a community took some initiative and ported .NET and C# to the *nix platforms (Unix, Linux, Mac OS X, and even Windows) So now with something like 98% compatibility .NET programmers can compile their code to run on Mono too. __________________ The greatest measure of a nation is not it\'s army or economy, but by how many people are trying to get in, and how many people are staying!! Guns, Guts, and Alcohol made America free. Born American, Die American Ubuntu - it\'s all about the bun\'s baby!!!

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10-29-2006, 01:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
jaeusm Software Developer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 465	You can develop J# applications in Visual Studio. As long as you don't reference .Net libraries, you can probably use the JDK to compile the same source code, and thus have a real Java program.

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rookie1010 Master Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,069	thanks for the reply so i can access the JDK from within the MS Dev 2003?

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rookie1010 Master Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,069	thanks for the reply thsi is sun keeping microsoft out of the java business, correct?

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rookie1010 Master Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,069	thanks for the reply i came across IBM JVM , i thought that since Sun came up with Java, the only JVM would be from Sun? what is the difference between IBM and Sun JVM?

11-04-2006, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
rookie1010 Master Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,069	thanks for the reply what is an ECMA standard?