P4 3.46GHz 1066fsb vs. Athlon 64 3500+ 2000fsb

Ace No-Money · 02-13-2005, 11:13 PM

If money was no object, which system would you build of these 2?

P4 3.46GHz 1066fsb
925x - ABIT AA8XE-3rd Eye
1GB OCZ Platinum DDR2-533
PCIx 256mb Radeon 850 XT Platinum

or

Amd Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 2000fsb
nForce 4 - ABIT AN8-3rd Eye
1GB Corsair XMS-XL DDR-400
AGP 8x 256mb GeForce 6800 Ultra

phosho510 · 02-13-2005, 11:37 PM

id go with the 3500 and overclock it

VIII · 02-14-2005, 03:51 AM

The AMD, coz of the graphics card and the ram. + a 3500+ would crap on a 3.4 even though im a pentium man

waynejkruse10 · 02-14-2005, 05:02 AM

In a mag i bought recently it tested the FX 55, 3.46ghz P4, 3.40ghz P4, here is the results.

NOTE: FX 55 - $1059 USD
P4 3.46ghz EE LGA 775- $1065 USD
P4 3.40ghz EE LGA 775- $989 USD

(according to Newegg)

Benchmark 1 - Multimedia Content Creation 2004
FX 55 - 39.2
3.46ghz - 33.6
3.40 - 33.5

Benchmark 2 - Business Winstone 2004
FX 55 - 29.5
3.46ghz - 25.4
3.40ghz - 24.9

Benchmark 3 - Memory Bandwidth
FX 55 - 5522MB/S
3.46ghz - 4692MB/S
3.40ghz - 4526MB/S

Benchmark 4 - Pifast (10 Million Places)
FX 55 - 49.22 sec
3.46ghz - 56.47 sec
3.40ghz - 63.12 sec

Benchmark 5 - 3DMARK 01 SE
FX 55 - 24002
3.46ghz - 22170
3.40ghz - 21122

Benchmark 6 - Doom 3
FX 55 - 92 fps
3.46ghz - 89.2 fps
3.40ghz - 86.6 fps

All systems used same components except Mobo and CPU. The AMD won 6/6 test.

And you wonder why Intel has 85% of the CPU market.

Wayne

Ace No-Money · 02-14-2005, 08:22 AM

yeah the fx-55 is awesome, but how does the 3500+ compare with the P4?

xteam02001 · 02-14-2005, 11:09 AM

it should beat it in gaming situations. maybe not in the other areas.

deadweight · 02-14-2005, 12:03 PM

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...ookie%5Ftest=1

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3...0/index.x?pg=3
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3...0/index.x?pg=5
also check the other pages in the review.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...64-90nm_7.html
and the following pages in the article

waynejkruse10 · 02-14-2005, 02:43 PM

in those tests Deadweight posted, the 3500+ didnt do too well against the P4 3.46 except in the memory bandwidth, UT2003, Wolfenstein, PI, etc. But comparing the 3500+ to the 3.46ghz isnt that correct because the 3.46ghz price wise is more comparible to the FX-55 which slogs it in all tests.

Codeine · 02-14-2005, 05:48 PM

Yeah really, dont foget the 3.46 has 2mb L3 cache, while the 3500 has only 640kb L2 Cache. That helps ALOT. I would just get a FX-55 for the amount of the 3.46. Again, AMD64 do not have FSB!

gaara · 02-14-2005, 06:35 PM

Aren't the Extreme Edition Pentium 4s incredibly expensive too? I think I saw a 3.4 or 3.6 retailing for nearly a thousand dollars canadian.

So the winner is obviously the Pentium in this case, but as mentioned above, the FX-55 will take it to school for about the same price, even in the majority of Intel favoured applications.

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02-13-2005, 11:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ace No-Money True Techie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 204	P4 3.46GHz 1066fsb vs. Athlon 64 3500+ 2000fsb If money was no object, which system would you build of these 2? P4 3.46GHz 1066fsb 925x - ABIT AA8XE-3rd Eye 1GB OCZ Platinum DDR2-533 PCIx 256mb Radeon 850 XT Platinum or Amd Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 2000fsb nForce 4 - ABIT AN8-3rd Eye 1GB Corsair XMS-XL DDR-400 AGP 8x 256mb GeForce 6800 Ultra __________________ ACEs System Athlon 64 3000+ Venice @ 2.25GHz EpoX 9NPA+ Ultra 2x512mb Patriot XBLK 256mb BFG 7600GT Samsung 200GB 8mb 500W Apevia (Aspire) PSU Samsung CD-RW Logitech Z-3 2.1 IBM 17 Windows 2000 PRO 3DMARK05 - 6***

02-14-2005, 03:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
VIII Monster Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,019	The AMD, coz of the graphics card and the ram. + a 3500+ would crap on a 3.4 even though im a pentium man __________________ Sig reinstated. SigSanta

02-14-2005, 05:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
waynejkruse10 Wizard Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,786	In a mag i bought recently it tested the FX 55, 3.46ghz P4, 3.40ghz P4, here is the results. NOTE: FX 55 - $1059 USD P4 3.46ghz EE LGA 775- $1065 USD P4 3.40ghz EE LGA 775- $989 USD (according to Newegg) Benchmark 1 - Multimedia Content Creation 2004 FX 55 - 39.2 3.46ghz - 33.6 3.40 - 33.5 Benchmark 2 - Business Winstone 2004 FX 55 - 29.5 3.46ghz - 25.4 3.40ghz - 24.9 Benchmark 3 - Memory Bandwidth FX 55 - 5522MB/S 3.46ghz - 4692MB/S 3.40ghz - 4526MB/S Benchmark 4 - Pifast (10 Million Places) FX 55 - 49.22 sec 3.46ghz - 56.47 sec 3.40ghz - 63.12 sec Benchmark 5 - 3DMARK 01 SE FX 55 - 24002 3.46ghz - 22170 3.40ghz - 21122 Benchmark 6 - Doom 3 FX 55 - 92 fps 3.46ghz - 89.2 fps 3.40ghz - 86.6 fps All systems used same components except Mobo and CPU. The AMD won 6/6 test. And you wonder why Intel has 85% of the CPU market. Wayne __________________ Core 2 Duo E6400, DFI Infinity 975X/G, 2x 512mb DDR2 667mhz, Albatron 7900gt, WD 200gb SATA, Samsung DVD-RW, Silverstone ST-50EF 500w PSU.

02-14-2005, 08:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ace No-Money True Techie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 204	yeah the fx-55 is awesome, but how does the 3500+ compare with the P4? __________________ ACEs System Athlon 64 3000+ Venice @ 2.25GHz EpoX 9NPA+ Ultra 2x512mb Patriot XBLK 256mb BFG 7600GT Samsung 200GB 8mb 500W Apevia (Aspire) PSU Samsung CD-RW Logitech Z-3 2.1 IBM 17 Windows 2000 PRO 3DMARK05 - 6***

02-13-2005, 11:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
phosho510 Ultra Techie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 876	id go with the 3500 and overclock it

02-14-2005, 11:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
xteam02001 Super Techie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 296	it should beat it in gaming situations. maybe not in the other areas. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3200+ \"Venice\" ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 2GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 eVGA 256mb 6800GT ANTEC 430watt TruePower 2.0 WD 160GB 8MB cache HDD NEC 16x Dual Layer DVD+/-RW

02-14-2005, 12:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
deadweight True Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 119	http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...ookie%5Ftest=1 http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3...0/index.x?pg=3 http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q3...0/index.x?pg=5 also check the other pages in the review. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...64-90nm_7.html and the following pages in the article __________________ AMD 64 3400+ s939 / ASUS A8V Deluxe (K8T800Pro) / Kingston Dual Channel DDR 400 (2 x 256) Corsair Value DDR 400 (2 x 512) / ATI Radeaon 9600XT / Seagate 120 GB/

02-14-2005, 02:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
waynejkruse10 Wizard Techie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,786	in those tests Deadweight posted, the 3500+ didnt do too well against the P4 3.46 except in the memory bandwidth, UT2003, Wolfenstein, PI, etc. But comparing the 3500+ to the 3.46ghz isnt that correct because the 3.46ghz price wise is more comparible to the FX-55 which slogs it in all tests. __________________ Core 2 Duo E6400, DFI Infinity 975X/G, 2x 512mb DDR2 667mhz, Albatron 7900gt, WD 200gb SATA, Samsung DVD-RW, Silverstone ST-50EF 500w PSU.

02-14-2005, 05:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Codeine Master Techie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,091	Yeah really, dont foget the 3.46 has 2mb L3 cache, while the 3500 has only 640kb L2 Cache. That helps ALOT. I would just get a FX-55 for the amount of the 3.46. Again, AMD64 do not have FSB! __________________ Finished With tech forums.

02-14-2005, 06:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
gaara Wizard Techie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 3,825	Aren't the Extreme Edition Pentium 4s incredibly expensive too? I think I saw a 3.4 or 3.6 retailing for nearly a thousand dollars canadian. So the winner is obviously the Pentium in this case, but as mentioned above, the FX-55 will take it to school for about the same price, even in the majority of Intel favoured applications. __________________ Intel C2D E6320 / AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Gigabyte 965P DS3 / DFI nF4 Ultra-D 2GB OCZ Gold PC2-6400 / 2GB OCZ Gold PC4000 eVGA 8800GTS 320MB / eVGA 6800GS 256MB 150GB Raptor / 74GB Raptor 2x500GB / 320GB OCZ GameXStreme 850w / OCZ StealthXStream 600w

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