Intel guys....opinions on Q6700 vs Q9300

[ricanflow]

Which is the better buy? A buddy of mine wants to know....and yes he will be ocing.

[Ste]

Q6700..

[stalin90]

pick the q6700

q6700 has 10x multi w/ 1066 fsb stock vs q9300 7.5multi w/ 1333fsb stock

[thirdshiftdj]

the 9300 is not worth it at all. But why is your buddy grabbing the 6700 if he can grab the 6600 cheaper?

[aspire.comptech]

The 10x multi makes it very attractive especially for the $240 shipped amazon has it for.

[Blahages]

It's actually me who he's talking about.

I'd assume that the Q6700 is still the better buy over the Q9450 then, too?

Right now, from what I've found, there's about a 100$ difference between the two.

Originally Posted by stalin90

pick the q6700

q6700 has 10x multi w/ 1066 fsb stock vs q9300 7.5multi w/ 1333fsb stock

Why does a higher multiplier and lower FSB make it better over the lower multiplier and higher FSB? That's the exact opposite of what seems logical to me.

Originally Posted by thirdshiftdj

But why is your buddy grabbing the 6700 if he can grab the 6600 cheaper?

The Q6700 price was cut by 50% the other day, so it's not that much different than the Q6600 right now.

And, I'm not entirely sure if I'll overclock it. I'm sure I likely will at some point, but I'm not sure if I'll do it immediately.

I've never actually done it before (besides screwing around with the multiplier on old Pentium I computers years ago), and for some reason it just makes me thing I'm going to burn it up, or mess something up in the processor or motherboard.

I was wondering about the Q9450 because it has twice the L2 Cache and a higher FSB than the Q6700. I was hoping I could find it on sale for like 300$ or so. I know it was on one site a few weeks ago, but I missed it.

I'm trying to make sure I get the best in terms of performance/capability/price, because the last time I built a computer in Oct. of 2005, I didn't pay much attention to what was going on, and bought an X2 3800+ Socket 939, like 4 months before the AM2 came out, so I'm stuck with DDR 1 RAM, and a 939 processor. It also cost 323$ then for the processor, and it was cut in half like 6 months later.

[aspire.comptech]

Go for the q6700, in the end its the better processor and should you tiddle around in overclocking it will clock much higher than the q9300.

Simple explanation is the smaller the process I.E. 45nm vs. 65nm the worse it will overclock.

This is also the reason why the e6300 chips have hardly dropped in price since they were released a year and a half ago.

You cant push any other cpu out there from 1.83 to 3.5ghz and above...

[Blahages]

Originally Posted by aspire.comptech

The 10x multi makes it very attractive especially for the $240 shipped amazon has it for.

I only see a 239$ version of the Q6600 on Amazon.

The Q6700 is shown at 309.

The 6700 is the same exact thing as the 6600, but with a 10x multiplier instead of a 9x multiplier, right??

Is the Q6700 still recommended over the Q9300 and Q9450 even if I don't overclock?

[Ste]

It needs to be a definite answer, either your going to overclock or not.

If your not going to overclock, not at all, then I say the Q9450, BUT if you are, most certainly going to overclock then go with the Q6700.

[veedubfreak]

Heres a quick explaination of why a low multi and high FSB is bad.

The q6600 and q6700 both come with a 1066 FSB which is 266 quad pumped.

The 9300/9450/9550 all come with a 1333 FSB which is 333 quad pumped.

While you will easily be able to push either of these cpu's to 1600 (400 quad pumped), the 6600/6700 give you a 9x or 10x depending on which you get. Sadly, you will probably not get stable at 10x400 on the q6700 unless you have a VERY good cooler, TRUE might do it, but water would be the only real way. So most likely you'd end up running a 9x multi anyway.

As for the new chips, they have higher stock FSB as a marketing gimmick because people see o0o0o0o 1333mhz it must be faster than that one that is only 1066mhz. So for those who dont overclock, it is usually faster, but limits overclocking due to most boards not really being able to handle more than about 450 FSB.

This about covers it. Right now, a q6600 G0 at 3.6ghz (or q6700 if you can find one for a few bucks more than the 6600) are the best bang for your buck.