I'm sure lots of people ask this but...

kinslayer · 05-27-2005, 11:28 AM

I read others posts about building new systems but I'm real confused still. The most I've done is swap out ram and video cards in a PC so I am not very knowledgable about what is compatible with what.
I (of course) have a tight budget but want something that will easily play games like WoW, HL2, and Doom3. Since my current system chokes a bit on some of them.

So can someone suggest a good setup?

I need a new:
mother board
processor
video card
ram

Here is what what my current comp is (as far as I can remember, I'm at work)
amd athlon 2800 on an asus board
nvidia geforce fx 5600
80g + 60g HDs 5400rpm(I think!)
400watt powersupply (again not sure on this maybe lower

)
512 RAM DDR
Thanks in advance for your help!!

Trifid · 05-27-2005, 12:38 PM

Whats your budget? Are you overclocking?

As far as parts go, (on budget)

AMD 64 3000 winni (cheaper than venice)
DFI lanparty board
6600gt - pci express
1gb of ram (not performance.) (are you keeping your old pc, if not just get 512, and use the old ram.)
and the rest.

If you don't want to use any of your old parts, for everything in the box (so excluding monitor etc) that would cost you just under $800, probally nearer $750.

kinslayer · 05-27-2005, 02:12 PM

Well I don't really have a set amount to spend on a new pc but I am just trying to see what the best parts i can get for as cheap as I can, lol. I suppose under 1k. Since I can use my same case, powersupply is fine I think...right now for ram I have 2 256 sticks so I'd have to get all new ram to get 1gb. Is the price you said for just those parts or for a full new comp with those parts in it? Because if it's for a whole new case, etc that's not a bad price.

Him · 05-27-2005, 02:45 PM

Since you dont really know how to build a rig, I'm going to say that you arent going to overclock either. Now, are you going to go Intel or AMD? Since it is mainly for gaming, I would recommend an AMD. For a board, maybe an Abit, DFi, maybe a Gigabyte. DFi is mainly for OCing, I mean it is still a great board for a non-oc'er, but still.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128263
Motherboard
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152
Motherboard (Extremely high end board)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103501
CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145505
Memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153007
PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130220
Video Card

That is a rather good setup. If anyone has any suggestions, throw them up, he;s going to need all the help he can get.

emeraldice · 05-27-2005, 02:55 PM

What you have currently is a very nice rig. I personally think that you will not notice the difference between your current comp and a new one. Are you running your games on high settings? I would personally suggest a new graphics card, and that would make things run faster.

All those games you told us about should run at least on low settings, if not higher, w/ no lag.

Trifid · 05-27-2005, 02:56 PM

This needs a case, but you could use your old one.

It has everything in the box except the box, lol.

Prices are from newegg.

Update MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K8N Neo4-F
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Update Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380013AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
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Subtotal: $693.49

kinslayer · 05-27-2005, 03:08 PM

Emerald, I have to play those games with low settings. They still look ok, but I've seen them on higher end systems and can see the difference. Since I'll have to buy this stuff in sets I'll probably get a new vid card first...since you said that would probably give the most improvement. This comp is used mainly for gaming, but I do alot of stuff in 3DSM and photoshop as well, I assume that what's good for gaming would be good for this lol. Thanks for your help so far I'll look at this stuff.

Him · 05-27-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emeraldice
What you have currently is a very nice rig. I personally think that you will not notice the difference between your current comp and a new one. Are you running your games on high settings? I would personally suggest a new graphics card, and that would make things run faster.

All those games you told us about should run at least on low settings, if not higher, w/ no lag.

That is a rather low end system. With a few minor improvements, he can get alot out of it. I have the 5600, and it is not a good card. I can play Doom on low settings, but it is terrible. He would see a HUGE difference between that comp and a new one. If he went with a 64 bit AMD, he would be haulin!
.
But like emmerald said, get a new vid card first. With that, you would see a noticable improvement. Then get your MoBo, then everything else.

kinslayer · 05-27-2005, 03:22 PM

I saw that you put a PCI express video card...my current mother board doesn't have a pci spot (that I know of??) so would it be worth it to still get an agi version of the card or is the pci version that much better that I should get the mother board first then the video card? Since I'm not sure if I can get both at once.

Him · 05-27-2005, 03:57 PM

You cant get both at once. The one I posted is the same card as the one Trifid posted, it's just AGP.

05-27-2005, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
kinslayer Newb Techie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	I'm sure lots of people ask this but... I read others posts about building new systems but I'm real confused still. The most I've done is swap out ram and video cards in a PC so I am not very knowledgable about what is compatible with what. I (of course) have a tight budget but want something that will easily play games like WoW, HL2, and Doom3. Since my current system chokes a bit on some of them. So can someone suggest a good setup? I need a new: mother board processor video card ram Here is what what my current comp is (as far as I can remember, I'm at work) amd athlon 2800 on an asus board nvidia geforce fx 5600 80g + 60g HDs 5400rpm(I think!) 400watt powersupply (again not sure on this maybe lower ) 512 RAM DDR Thanks in advance for your help!!

05-27-2005, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trifid Wizard Techie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,010	Whats your budget? Are you overclocking? As far as parts go, (on budget) AMD 64 3000 winni (cheaper than venice) DFI lanparty board 6600gt - pci express 1gb of ram (not performance.) (are you keeping your old pc, if not just get 512, and use the old ram.) and the rest. If you don't want to use any of your old parts, for everything in the box (so excluding monitor etc) that would cost you just under $800, probally nearer $750. __________________ Cisco CCNA, Comptia A+

05-27-2005, 02:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
emeraldice Ultra Techie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 612	What you have currently is a very nice rig. I personally think that you will not notice the difference between your current comp and a new one. Are you running your games on high settings? I would personally suggest a new graphics card, and that would make things run faster. All those games you told us about should run at least on low settings, if not higher, w/ no lag. __________________ AMD Newcastle skt 754 3000+ Elitegroup 755-A2 ATX motherboard 512 DDR RAM 120 gig PATA Hard drive 128 mb AGP 8x ATI Radeon 9250 300 watt 12 volt psu Antec SLK 1600 case

05-27-2005, 02:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Trifid Wizard Techie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,010	This needs a case, but you could use your old one. It has everything in the box except the box, lol. Prices are from newegg. Update MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Model #: K8N Neo4-F This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. what's this? Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $86.00 $86.00 CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives) Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A - OEM Model #: ND-3520A SV Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $48.99 $48.99 Internal Hard Drives Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380013AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM Model #: ST380013AS Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $75.00 $75.00 Memory - System Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update G.SKILL 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model F1-3200PHU2-1GBZX - Retail Model #: F1-3200PHU2-1GBZX Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $101.50 $101.50 Power Supplies Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update THERMALTAKE Silent Purepower W0013RU ATX 480W Power Supply - Retail Model #: W0013RU Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $60.00 $60.00 Processors Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BIBOX - Retail Model #: ADA3000BIBOX This item is warranted through the product manufacturer only. what's this? Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $148.00 $148.00 Video Cards & Related Devices Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price Update eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail Model #: 128-P2-N368-TX $15.00 Mail-in Rebate Remove item from Cart Remove Save Save Move To Wishlist $174.00 $174.00 Subtotal: $693.49 __________________ Cisco CCNA, Comptia A+

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05-27-2005, 02:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
kinslayer Newb Techie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	Well I don't really have a set amount to spend on a new pc but I am just trying to see what the best parts i can get for as cheap as I can, lol. I suppose under 1k. Since I can use my same case, powersupply is fine I think...right now for ram I have 2 256 sticks so I'd have to get all new ram to get 1gb. Is the price you said for just those parts or for a full new comp with those parts in it? Because if it's for a whole new case, etc that's not a bad price.

05-27-2005, 02:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Him Wizard Techie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,194	Since you dont really know how to build a rig, I'm going to say that you arent going to overclock either. Now, are you going to go Intel or AMD? Since it is mainly for gaming, I would recommend an AMD. For a board, maybe an Abit, DFi, maybe a Gigabyte. DFi is mainly for OCing, I mean it is still a great board for a non-oc'er, but still. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128263 Motherboard or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152 Motherboard (Extremely high end board) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103501 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145505 Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153007 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130220 Video Card That is a rather good setup. If anyone has any suggestions, throw them up, he;s going to need all the help he can get.

05-27-2005, 03:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
kinslayer Newb Techie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	Emerald, I have to play those games with low settings. They still look ok, but I've seen them on higher end systems and can see the difference. Since I'll have to buy this stuff in sets I'll probably get a new vid card first...since you said that would probably give the most improvement. This comp is used mainly for gaming, but I do alot of stuff in 3DSM and photoshop as well, I assume that what's good for gaming would be good for this lol. Thanks for your help so far I'll look at this stuff.

05-27-2005, 03:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
kinslayer Newb Techie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	I saw that you put a PCI express video card...my current mother board doesn't have a pci spot (that I know of??) so would it be worth it to still get an agi version of the card or is the pci version that much better that I should get the mother board first then the video card? Since I'm not sure if I can get both at once.

05-27-2005, 03:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Him Wizard Techie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,194	You cant get both at once. The one I posted is the same card as the one Trifid posted, it's just AGP.