Gaming comp, first time building

Therock · 04-18-2005, 04:45 PM

Hey guys. First time I visited this forum I didn't know s*it about building a computer, but I've learned a lot for the 3 months I've been here, I still don't know that much and I'd like your help/advice on my first comp that I'll actually get a chance to build on my own. My budget is $1500 and the comp will be mostly used for gaming. Here is what I got so far, if you see any incompatibility wherever please feel free to change it. Thx a lot.

AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Socket 939 Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-514&depa=0
DFI "LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR" NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-151&depa=0
Thermaltake W0014RU Silent Purepower 480W with Black housing - Xaser Edition ATX 2-Fan Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...153-007&DEPA=0
Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM Drive Only
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-160&depa=0
Thermaltake SOPRANO VB1000SWS Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With X type side panel window -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...133-146&depa=1
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N345-AX" -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-196&depa=1
pqi TURBO Series Dual Channel Platinum Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail (is it good RAM?)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...141-151&depa=1
Lite-On Black 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner support Dual Layer, Model SOHW-1673S BK, Retail
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-966&depa=0

Total: 1419.47(still need a mouse and keyboard)

Did I miss anything? Is everything compatible? Any opinions/suggestions?
Really appreciate it, thx.

DJ-CHRIS · 04-18-2005, 05:24 PM

That's an amazing system

However if you plan on overclocking, I would spend 70$ more on 2x G. Skill ram's that will OC alot nicer

As you know, the Raptor is nice, but not a nessicity

dale5605 · 04-18-2005, 05:37 PM

Pretty nice setup. I agree with DJ, better ram IF you plan on overclocking, you have the mobo and processor for it. All you would need is better ram and a better CPU heatsink. I would get 2 80gb drives and RAID 0 them which will be cheaper and faster than the 10k drive plus more storage.

And do you really need SLI?

Cut back on the SLI and just get ultra, and cut back on the hard drive and use that money towards better ram and a good heatsink so you have the option of overclocking if you decide to.

idiotec · 04-18-2005, 06:38 PM

The video card is AGP and the mobo is PCI-E, so change that. I would just make one switch as others have said.

Get a 6800GT, rather than the Ultra (make sure its PCI-E if you stick with that mobo!). You can easily OC it to the Ultra speeds.

Spend the money you saved on the video card on better RAM.

EASY!

Musjunk22 · 04-18-2005, 08:32 PM

yes definitely get the GT over the Ultra its a waste of money to get the Ultra, it has a rediculously large cooler as well, GT overclocked a little will be just as good as an Ultra, thats exactly what I've done with my card. my friend has that same ram I think it is very nice ram the cas 2.5 is good enough to oc with. the difference between 2 and 2.5 is very very subtle when doing benchmarks.

DJ-CHRIS · 04-18-2005, 08:32 PM

Oh my, i forgot that, it's an AGP you do need PCI-E

Getting a GT isnt a bad idea either, as the money can have better uses, and overclocking a GT is easy.

Codeine · 04-18-2005, 08:34 PM

From my own personal experience with Raptors on raid0, if your looking for all around system speed, and if you have the cash. Get the Raptors running on raid0.

You havent mentioned if your going to OC, which this would be very important for your hardware. Either way, im down with the Raptors on raid0, you just cant beat the full system speed you gain from these.

Therock · 04-18-2005, 08:34 PM

How about this:
DFI "LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-152&depa=0
Instead of the SLI board and:
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "256-P2-N376-AX" -RETAIL
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-215&depa=0

And yes I'm planing on OCing this bad boy

but not yet, in like a few months.

Codeine · 04-18-2005, 08:43 PM

I suggest G Skill PC3200 RAM. Which 512mb x2 will cost you a good 300$. I also suggest OCZ Platinum Rev 512mb x2 PC3200. I have this OCZ Platinum Rev 512mb x2 PC3200 RAM. Its one of the best OC RAM out there. I have pushed it to 234mhz, completely stable. I only suggest G Skill if your going to be doing some serious OC. Thats because its so **** expensive, which OC is really all you need it for. You can find other RAM with the same latency.

dale5605 · 04-18-2005, 09:42 PM

Codeine for $215 you can get four 256mb sticks of PC-4400 g skill ram...
That will run 275mhz on stock. It's not as expensive as you think.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...231-003&depa=1

04-18-2005, 04:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Therock True Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120	Gaming comp, first time building Hey guys. First time I visited this forum I didn't know s*it about building a computer, but I've learned a lot for the 3 months I've been here, I still don't know that much and I'd like your help/advice on my first comp that I'll actually get a chance to build on my own. My budget is $1500 and the comp will be mostly used for gaming. Here is what I got so far, if you see any incompatibility wherever please feel free to change it. Thx a lot. AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Socket 939 Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor - Retail http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-514&depa=0 DFI "LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR" NVIDIA nForce4 SLI Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-151&depa=0 Thermaltake W0014RU Silent Purepower 480W with Black housing - Xaser Edition ATX 2-Fan Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...153-007&DEPA=0 Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD740GD, OEM Drive Only http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-160&depa=0 Thermaltake SOPRANO VB1000SWS Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With X type side panel window -RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...133-146&depa=1 eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "256-A8-N345-AX" -RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-196&depa=1 pqi TURBO Series Dual Channel Platinum Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail (is it good RAM?) http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...141-151&depa=1 Lite-On Black 16X DVD+/-R DVD Burner support Dual Layer, Model SOHW-1673S BK, Retail http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-966&depa=0 Total: 1419.47(still need a mouse and keyboard) Did I miss anything? Is everything compatible? Any opinions/suggestions? Really appreciate it, thx.

04-18-2005, 05:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
dale5605 Monster Techie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,488	Pretty nice setup. I agree with DJ, better ram IF you plan on overclocking, you have the mobo and processor for it. All you would need is better ram and a better CPU heatsink. I would get 2 80gb drives and RAID 0 them which will be cheaper and faster than the 10k drive plus more storage. And do you really need SLI? Cut back on the SLI and just get ultra, and cut back on the hard drive and use that money towards better ram and a good heatsink so you have the option of overclocking if you decide to. __________________ <font size=\"1\">Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHZ HT-------------------AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Intel Stock CPU Cooler------------------------Zalman 7700-Cu Idle: 51C---------------------------------------Idle: 21C Load: 72C--------------------------------------Load: 28C ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe-----------------------GIGABYTE K8NF4-9 NForce4 4X 512MBX2 Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 PC-3200-----512MBX2 Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 PC-3200 ATI RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition-------ATI RADEON X800 XL Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS----------Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Western Digital Raptor 37GB 10K------------2X Western Digital SATA150 Caviar SE 80GB RAID 0 Antec True 480W------------------------------Thermaltake Silent PurePower 680W Zalman 5.1 Headphones----------------------Zalman 5.1 Headphones Zalman High Sensitivity Microphone----------Zalman High Sensitivity Microphone Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A----------Logitech Media Keyboard Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0A---------Logitech MX510 3DMark05: 5,928------------------------------3DMark05: 5,000</font>

04-18-2005, 06:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
idiotec Monster Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,759	The video card is AGP and the mobo is PCI-E, so change that. I would just make one switch as others have said. Get a 6800GT, rather than the Ultra (make sure its PCI-E if you stick with that mobo!). You can easily OC it to the Ultra speeds. Spend the money you saved on the video card on better RAM. EASY! __________________ BE HEARD - Techonvent DS3 \| E6400 - 3.2GHz 24/7 \| 2GB OCZ PLat. PC6400 \| 6800GT \| Zippy 460W What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

04-18-2005, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Musjunk22 Ultra Techie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 545	yes definitely get the GT over the Ultra its a waste of money to get the Ultra, it has a rediculously large cooler as well, GT overclocked a little will be just as good as an Ultra, thats exactly what I've done with my card. my friend has that same ram I think it is very nice ram the cas 2.5 is good enough to oc with. the difference between 2 and 2.5 is very very subtle when doing benchmarks. __________________ ::<a href=\"http://maddox.xmission.com/\">Best Page In the Universe!</a>::<a href=\"http://www.homestarrunner.com/\">Up for Some Laughs?</a> \"And the moral of the story is.... never throw bananas into the wormhole of the space time continuum.\"~Musjunk22

04-18-2005, 08:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Codeine Master Techie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,091	From my own personal experience with Raptors on raid0, if your looking for all around system speed, and if you have the cash. Get the Raptors running on raid0. You havent mentioned if your going to OC, which this would be very important for your hardware. Either way, im down with the Raptors on raid0, you just cant beat the full system speed you gain from these. __________________ Finished With tech forums.

04-18-2005, 05:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
DJ-CHRIS Lord Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,053	That's an amazing system However if you plan on overclocking, I would spend 70$ more on 2x G. Skill ram's that will OC alot nicer As you know, the Raptor is nice, but not a nessicity

04-18-2005, 08:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
DJ-CHRIS Lord Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,053	Oh my, i forgot that, it's an AGP you do need PCI-E Getting a GT isnt a bad idea either, as the money can have better uses, and overclocking a GT is easy.

04-18-2005, 08:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Therock True Techie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120	How about this: DFI "LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D" NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...136-152&depa=0 Instead of the SLI board and: eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, Dual DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "256-P2-N376-AX" -RETAIL http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-215&depa=0 And yes I'm planing on OCing this bad boy but not yet, in like a few months. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego @ 2.8GHz DFI LanParty nf4 ultra-d eVga 7800GT 256MB 1GB OCZ extreme series (2 x 512) OCZ 550 Watt PSU Samsung 200GB 7200rpm Tsunami Dream Case

04-18-2005, 08:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Codeine Master Techie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,091	I suggest G Skill PC3200 RAM. Which 512mb x2 will cost you a good 300$. I also suggest OCZ Platinum Rev 512mb x2 PC3200. I have this OCZ Platinum Rev 512mb x2 PC3200 RAM. Its one of the best OC RAM out there. I have pushed it to 234mhz, completely stable. I only suggest G Skill if your going to be doing some serious OC. Thats because its so **** expensive, which OC is really all you need it for. You can find other RAM with the same latency. __________________ Finished With tech forums.

04-18-2005, 09:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
dale5605 Monster Techie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,488	Codeine for $215 you can get four 256mb sticks of PC-4400 g skill ram... That will run 275mhz on stock. It's not as expensive as you think. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...231-003&depa=1 __________________ <font size=\"1\">Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHZ HT-------------------AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester Intel Stock CPU Cooler------------------------Zalman 7700-Cu Idle: 51C---------------------------------------Idle: 21C Load: 72C--------------------------------------Load: 28C ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe-----------------------GIGABYTE K8NF4-9 NForce4 4X 512MBX2 Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 PC-3200-----512MBX2 Corsair XMS 2-2-2-5 PC-3200 ATI RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition-------ATI RADEON X800 XL Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS----------Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Western Digital Raptor 37GB 10K------------2X Western Digital SATA150 Caviar SE 80GB RAID 0 Antec True 480W------------------------------Thermaltake Silent PurePower 680W Zalman 5.1 Headphones----------------------Zalman 5.1 Headphones Zalman High Sensitivity Microphone----------Zalman High Sensitivity Microphone Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A----------Logitech Media Keyboard Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0A---------Logitech MX510 3DMark05: 5,928------------------------------3DMark05: 5,000</font>

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