both...I don't want to confuse pc users
you have to be a fan of both to easily understand and I am...but most here are just pc
My HDTV, not being the newest model is 3 times both ratings...and it's what you would consider a base hdtv
that toshiba must be an economy model, which I understand they have a line of
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In this day and age, with all the ugliness in the real world that surrounds us,
we should leave all the pretentiousness aside on anonymous forums.