Cool, I'll check it out. Currently I found one called "VoptXP" that seems to be working better than the previous one. Has a better display function of the clusters and it actually moving it, kind of like the defrag on win98 looked. It seems like it's trucking along quite good, but I've only had it running for 5 minutes or so, so we'll see after it's done, then I'll use the windows system analyzer just to see how it looks on that.
That one I mentioned is also only 30 days, I was gonna pay for it too but then I saw it was $40 freakin bucks and thought nevermind. I was hoping it'd be a cheap $15 proggie or something.
Anywho, I'll get the one you suggested and probably use them both just to get it down to 0% fragmentation. My C: drive is like that. Windows defragger works fine on it, but it's only an 80gb HD and the C: is a 25gb partition compared to my 200gb which has torrents going to it daily which really fragments it.
Thanks for the suggestions, that's exactly what I was looking for was some users who have used other programs before. Naturally I googled for some too, but I wouldn't know which one would be good without other users info.
Thanks trotter