Ur being exactly what ur avtar says "grumpy old geezer"
Have u even bothered to give a shot at anyof these apps ....
N' raylu ...yes most of these apps tend to get the site thru the links ..but it is very much possible to get all files of the server provided they haven't restricted it .. Use tools like Web parser ,Flashget,Leechget
Also ..DOesn't the source contain the same thing as the links ...
N' how do u intentend parsing php files viewing the source
