I'm ghetto, so I use the RCA Lyra. Can't go wrong with $70.00, well that was the price of it when it was on sale. But hey, it's good enough. It holds 4 hours of music without a Memory Stick, but with the other memory stick I bought I got another 4 hours, so it's 8. I think you can get it to hold 20 or more hours. I don't like the Ipod's they're all big and clunky, and if you drop it. It's the end of the world for your wallet. But with the Lyra, it weighs nothing, when it drops or falls rather, it doesn't even hit hard, unless you drop it off a huge ledge but otherwise I don't find any problems with it. Besides if you buy and IPod someone is going to "bust a cap." If you haven't heard the news people are shooting eachother over IPods. How childish and plain stupid.