yep i did that, actually last night i powered everything down all night, both computers, router and modem, that didnt do it...for some reason the one computer that isnt working right now hangs at startup, and after releasing the IP this morning, putting it all 0.0.0.0, caused it to not want to start up at all, i had to start in safe mode, then restart normally, still 0.0.0.0 IP