ipod is better firmware wise.. otehr then that its not all that great.
edited:
the leading players are
ipods 3rd + 4th gen
+ size
+firmware
+looks desent
-batterlife
-no build in stuff(but u can assessories)
=sound quality is moderare
irivers H1xx
+looks
+size
+batterlife
+built in stuff
+sound qualiy
-firmware(but is fixable)
irivers H3xx
+color screen
+batterlife
+built in stuff
+sound
+ non-amerca version has USB OTG
-looks
-size
-firmware(but is fixable)
-america versionc dont have USB OTG
creatives
+battery life
+sound quality
+firmware is desent
-no(?) built in stuff
-size
another good one is iaudio M3
+++small
-- no main unit screen, must use remote to see
thsoe are just HDP
thyre also FM, and MHD