Yeah they shouldnt be able to get away with putting vista on those $400-$500 pos laptops/desktops. It makes no sense from the consumer standpoint. Most noobs look at it as a steal of a deal with the newest os on it. Mean while its no good in multitasking and theres alot of waiting. Vista puts my rig in my comment to shame. Jeez. Atleast the budget computers that came with xp back in the day were fast.