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Old 07-11-2007, 07:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Default Re: C++ versus Java

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaeusm View Post
You'd do well to take your own advice.


Yes, logical responses to anecdotal evidence and ad hominem attacks are funny.


Lets see, this was your point: "WELL, WHAT WAS MY POINT? I'm trying to say, the "majority" of the large companies work mainly with C++." I responded to it by saying that you need to back that up. Prove to me that all "big companies" require knowledge of C++. You have thus far failed to do that.


Actually, I already posted the language I use in my current job. You might want to read my posts before responding to them.


That is the assertion I've been asking you to back up. You made the claim, so prove it. Show me documentation. Show a study. Something other than, "my friend said...".


Prove it.


The burden of proof is on you. You're the one making the assertion.


Maybe you wouldn't, but I would . Are you just starting college?


Do I actually need to refute this statement?


Yeah, the Air Force is pretty small.


Well of course they can. I mean, just look at all the evidence you've provided.

I decided to do some of your work for you. I went some of the "big companies" and searched their job databases for java jobs and c++ jobs. Here are the results:
Northrup Grumman
- java: 211
- c++: 85

Raytheon
- java: 175
- c++: 180

Accenture
- java: 181
- c++: 63

Intel
- java: 34
- c++: 27

HP
- java: 403
- c++: 273

Lockheed
- java: 559
- c++: 619

Though a bit off topic, you may find this link interesting:
TPCI - TIOBE Programming Community Index
ROFL, hey man, your data is skewed.... obviously didn't do the correct "C++" search on their sites??

Nothrop Gruman:
-java=316
-c++=288
--yeah..... um... don't try fooling with that kinda ratio. 211:85 haha
- Nothrop Gruman is more java based like you said, but don't exaggerate now.

Raytheon seems correct

Accenture
-java = 63
-c++ = 70
181:63 <-- i don't think so...

Intel
-java = 27
-c++ = 218
34:27??? are you kidding me?? if you're gonna lie, make it more reasonable..

HP
-java = 398
-c++ = 273

Lockheed:
-java = 561
-c++ = 635
Stop fooling yourself.

Yes the air force IS pretty small compared to the industry itself. Why do you think they hire boeing, lockheed, raytheon, nothrop, if the AF was sooooooooo big.

Ok, so this research was in your favor and you OBVIOUSLY LIED. BUT you still lose. I didn't tweak the numbers at all, everyone on this forum can go search c++ and java themselves. Only Nothrop Gruman and HP has more "OPENINGS" for java programmers. While others have more C++.

NOW, think about this.... these are openings. Everyone who is working at these large companies are probably 90% C++ software engineers who have been hired. I've seen it from personal experience, like I have already mentioned.

I smell a definite fanboy in denial.

Edit: I've talked to all of these company's representatives and they all said C++ is what they want from their candidates(including Nothrop Grumman)** edited because I know this is gonna get ugly, I know what type of person you are.. lOL
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