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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 165+A8N5X won't OC more then 2.2, etc(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: gohand this is about my 5th rig, but i am NEW to overclocking. here is the rig dual core opteron 165@2.18 psu:Thermaltake TR2 W0070 430W A8N5X bios 502 2gb(1gbX2) ocz 2-3-2-5 @2.5-3-2-5 evga geforce 6800 gs OC +copper 490mhz; 1100mhz hd: 80 seagate(boot) 40, 20 gb maxtor. there was several mis. problems, generally it can't OC more then 2.18 so far if i do, it will just restart at the point before it goes to windows loading screen. frequncy won't go more then 244X9. temp isn't high, currently 244X9 idle 30c, 42 while high load. But i noticed the Ram was very hot, especially the one on the first chanel, it burns my finger when i touch it after playing a full screen game. that is 3d. now at 2.18 it can play fear maxed at 1024x768 but if i set freq to 246 the screen in fear will start to render wrongly or if not, after 10 min playing it'll go blue screen and restart itself(even tho no lag in the 10min) btw i've artic silver applied and it doesn't seem too diff from the original termal compound. there are dual core driver installed from [URL=http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9033,00.html]here[/URL] not sure if that's the correct place. here's the problem, excluding that it can't go more then 2.18(most people can get it to 2.5ghz or more on stock)and ram goes too hot sometimes while in game it nearly crash if the room temp gets bit high and clock it's freq higher then 242. when it start up, it said that the hard drive isn't connected with a 80 pin data cable, while i double checked, it does connects with 80 pin. switching them with cd-rom makes no diff. any help is appreciated Posted by: nitestick first of all there is an overclocking section to this forum so in future if you could use that you will probably get better responses. my guess is that you need to increase the cpu voltage (a.k.a vcore) only increase it by the smallest amount possible, either that or your ram won't overclock any further so you should use a memory divider. also at evry overclock level you should be testing stability with a program like prime95. Posted by: Nubius [quote]2gb(1gbX2) ocz 2-3-2-5 @2.5-3-2-5[/quote] I sure hope you are using a memory divider and aren't trying to run your memory up at 242MHz with your CPU at those timings and only a mere 2.6v Don't even know what kind of mobo you have, what your RAM is set at currently, what divider you have, how much voltage you got going through the CPU. Sounds like you really need to re-read up on OC'ing dude, and also learn to give us adequate info about your specs and such. Posted by: gohand here is the full spec Mobo: ASUS A8N5X bios version 502([URL=http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=596&l1=3&l2=15&l3=207]site[/URL] cpu:dual core opteron 165; cpu Freq [242.0] core valtage[1.325v] stock cooling with arctic silver5 power suply: Thermaltake TR2 W0070 430W[URL=http://www.tr2tt.com/products/psu/w006970/w006970.htm]site[/URL] Ram:OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB)( [URL=http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_platinum]site[/URL] ) with additional ocz ram sink applied ([URL=http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/cooling_products/ocz_copper_bga_ramsink]site[/URL] (tras)=5t;(tcl)=2.5;(trcd)=3t; (trp)=2t case:ATRIX CSCI-A9001-C4 Black 1X NEC DVD RW 80gb seagate HD(boot)+40gb+20gb HDs etc bios info are marked down from bios, those are settings modified or possibly modified from default. any other setting that aren't mentioned here are in default. p.s. at this setting, it is currently stable, play fear, at settings maxed at 1024X798 for about hour. cpu sill at around 60-70% 41C load but the memory is just a bit burning finger, i'm not sure if that is normal, but it is generally a quality ram. but, it's just weird that cpu won't over clock any more then this. Posted by: SomeIranianKid dude run a divider on that ram or just loosen the timings a little bit or increase the vdimm or the vcore Posted by: gurusan Yeah definitely read the stickies. I came to this site a complete newb and in about 2-3 weeks I've learned quite a bit. I'm not bragging, my point is that there is a LOT of information for you if you are willing to read it. I'm still a noob, I'd like to get my 3200+ venice to 2.6 but it won't POST past 2.4 and I'm already running a vcore of 1.525 which seems a bit high for only a 400mhz OC. Still, I'm fairly satisfied with my OC and as a plus I'm able to run my RAM at 240 with stock timings at 2.9v. Scared to push it to 3. It has heatspreaders and the CPU fan blows across it and the modules never get too hot to the touch. Not to steal the thread but is it save to put the ram to 3.0 or 3.1? Posted by: gohand after reading some tutorials, i think it's really the problem with the ratio between the cpu and the ram's clock that's cost the over heat of the ram, but how am i able to specify the speed of the ram, and how can i calculate it to be exactly or atleast roughly 200mhz for the ram wich is it's standard speed? from the ram configuration from the bios, i can only set it to neither 400, 333, or even lower, but is that really the right place i should go to set? if i set it to 333, what clock the cpu is set so that it's makes the ram to roughly 200mhz? as you can see with the screen shot Posted by: gaara Google up up A64MemFreq Calculator as it's a nice little program that lets you put it the HTT speed and RAM divider which in turn spits out your effective RAM speed. Just from your screenshot alone I can already tell that your vcore is probably too low and is going to become too low, and your RAM is running too high without adaquent latency adjustments/vdimm Posted by: aliasaid ::noob hazarding a guess:: i think if you set it to 333 (or 167), it'll just start to overclock from there.so if you clock your HTT 33mhz, then you'll have a mem speed of 200mhz and an HTT speed of 233... and then you can go higher and your ram goes higher... since yoru ram gets really hot try not to go past 225mhz or 230mhz for your ram. downclock it to 133 if your cpu is able to go further... (i warned you i'm a noob.. so don't rely on my info too much..) Posted by: Nubius putting your memory divider at 333/166 whatever it's displayed as in your bios, will result in your memory being at 183MHz with your HTT set at 224. I used the A64MemFreq gaara was talking about to calculate that which is what you should do. Posted by: nitestick [quote]Not to steal the thread but is it save to put the ram to 3.0 or 3.1?[/quote] depends on the chips used on the ram. personally i wouldn't want to run 3.0v+ through anything other than BH-5/CH-5 chips. most memory doesn't like a lot of voltage but those suckers can take up to 4.0v provided they are cooled adequately. my ram runs DDR500@2-2-2-5@~3.4-3.5v Posted by: reggie_da_man Did anyone check the power supply? Thermaltake TR2 430w:eek: The ram is also an issue. Posted by: gohand now, here is the new result, i've tried to make the ram frequency to 266 and made the HTT to 258 vcore 1.375(don't know if that's still too low) it boots and blue screened even at idle after about 10 minutes but it's mem frequeancy only at 166mhz i've tried to set it to the HTT clock that's calculated by the mem calculator to be 266 @ 200mhz so it's roughly HTT at 310 which is impossible, it won't even go to the second screen :( now it should not be the problem of the ram(vcore always below 1.4 heat around 40 c' at idle) so heat isn't particular problem, at all, and would it be because the vcore is not high enough? or is it the motherboard?(cause it doesn't let me boot) so here is the new result(the best i can do so far ):[QUOTE]Did anyone check the power supply? Thermaltake TR2 430w The ram is also an issue.[/QUOTE] i've used the power calculator suggested, and it seemed that it's so far bearly enough :P Posted by: nitestick actually i would say heat is an issue. 40 degrees idle is pretty high for any E revision chip. even on stock cooling at 2.5ghz i think my idle temps where well below 40 degrees. 40 degrees is around my max temp :amazed:. get a better cooler and up the vcore a little Posted by: gohand actually i think it's really 32- 35 since different messurment had different display :( sorry i've made that mistake, in the temperature measure from my case which is attached to the heat sync displays the lowest 28-31 at idle but it's usually a few degrees lower, and from AI booster it's around 33-37 c' Posted by: nitestick well it seems you may have got a poor chip if you need to boost vcore this much this early :(. up the vcore slightly and give it a run in prime95 Posted by: reggie_da_man Did you let it burn in? Posted by: Brtnboarder495 Must be a bad chip, My Opteron 165 is running at 2.25ghz (HTT 250) with no true dividers setup or used. I haven't even changed the vcore ... yet. Posted by: gohand i think it's something wrong with my ram setting, after i set the RAS#precharge to 3 from 2 something dramatically changed, now i lowered it's vcore to 1.35(when i find it's much stabler then before)and higher a bit HTT now it's 247 and i've ran prime 98 at bove core where it's already maxed cpu load 100% then i still can open COD2 played 2 chapters straight settings cranked up at 1280x1024 without any lag. and it stays around below 45c i think it should be able to go more but o well, the Ram was burning my finger tho, i think it's close to 50c. :( btw i don't see a specific tutorial about ram dividers and an article explaining about how those ram latency figures works, if i turn it to be larger will it delay my machine, but it seemed that i needed to higher it in order to make more OC. but specifically which should i play around with and how it works? i've seen my AI booster to boost the htt to over 350 at many points even tho it's only for a few seconds but it seems to me very possible, i think i can't is because in the process of highering HTT it also alters other settings such as ram frequency, i want to know how and what can i do to alter nothin but the HTT. Posted by: nitestick for starters just to troubleshoot i think you should leave your ram at stock timings and voltage, use a divider like 1:2 (don't worry about how large it is). now see how far you can overclock the cpu. Posted by: trimmin nitstick is right. leave your ram at standard settings or even below to get your cpu to its optimal setting. then decrease the multiplier on the cpu and start tesing the ram to find its optimal setting.use memtest to test the ram. i found it was best to test each component first. before overclocking them together. vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. PPC Management vB Easy Archive Final - Created by Xenon |