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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 8800Gtx - Crysis?(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: the:megalon Well, you can clearly tell that my 8800Gtx obsession is not going to run away that fast. But seriously: will the 8800Gtx be able to handle Crysis at a [U]great[/U] speed and with beautiful visions? Some people have been saying that Crysis will "kick" the 8800Gtx's ***. So, what do you guys say? Will the 8800Gtx handle Crysis like it does with the current games? P.S. I also have E6600 with my 8800; I will add my system's rig to my sig later on. Rig. Sig. Rigsig. :amazed: Posted by: Sora It depends, we have not seen how the 8 series will actually do in DX10. Until we get actual benchmarks from an actual DX10 game (which won't be for a while) then no one can say for sure. I think it should be able to play it pretty well at a lower res. Posted by: will h4x 4 food yes, we have already seen it handle Crysis at max settings from recent GDC videos. Also keep in mind that the game is not even optimized yet, so you should have great perfromance in Crysis...Don't worry. Posted by: the:megalon Yeah, my 19" monitor is a pretty low res. But I'm thinking of going to a widescreen; my options: 1600x1200 and 1900x1200, will Crysis eat that up? Posted by: Sora Exactly we have seen crysis but DX10 hasn't been optimized completely with it yet so it's not 100% certain. 1440x900 which is 19 wise will destroy it most likley while 1600x1200 should run great...1900 may be cutting it. it's hard to say Posted by: ulater6000 I would think that you would be capable of playing Crysis on at least medium graphics settings. Posted by: will h4x 4 food You can play it on max DX10 so don't worry. Crytek only has one card to optimize their DX10 version of the game and that's your card, so if you can't max it out with great performance on that thing then there is a bog problem. Posted by: jonny_uk i think a E6600 processor or above with 2 gigs of ram and a 8800GTX will play it at max settings on a 19", i think anything above 19" will slow the game down abit. Im not 100% sure(obviously) but thats just what i reckon :D Posted by: maroon1 I found this info here, not sure on how reliable it is though [url]http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/[/url] It says that a single 7800GTX will play Crysis at high settings Posted by: Amd gt player the 8800gtx will destroy crysis there using one in there rig and they are getting amazing fps it isnt a game based on hdr to look good its based on good textures wich render easily Posted by: lancec2c30 ^^ in dx9 mode though. it might be greatly tuned down for the use of dx9 cards. Posted by: Sora I still think the 8800GTX will be too powerful of a card to be slowed at even 1600x1200 with Crysis... Posted by: backup287 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maroon1 [/i] [B]I found this info here, not sure on how reliable it is though [url]http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/[/url] It says that a single 7800GTX will play Crysis at high settings [/B][/QUOTE] lol they always say that, they just state low requirements so people will buy i remeber warcraft 3 said it needed a 32 mb video card and my buddy lagged with a 256 mb vid card!(he was not bottlenecked by ram or cpu) same with Aoe3 box says 64 mb video card but ive heard of people with 512 mb ones lagging on med those requirements are always exxagerated i think the 8800 gtx should run it on med-high depending on your cpu and the drivers they come up with by that time Posted by: augest What bout two in SLI? Would you think that'll help alot? Posted by: b1gapl It will help with higher resolutions. Posted by: the:megalon Two 8800Gtx's in SLI would be more than enough with dx10 and any cpu above E6400 (oc'd). But yes, thanks alot for input! I'm just trying to find out if my rig will keep up with this year's games. [Pets computer] Hot. Posted by: BennyV04988 If NWN2 cripples a GTX, crysis should certianly not be underestimated. I'm so excited. I'm upgrading to a C2D/GTS build. I can't wait to see if it can even touch DX9 crysis lol. I'd typically wait for prices to drop (not for better performance parts) and for a DX10 game to come out, but I figured that for $250 out of pocket after selling my 3800 X2/7900GT, it might be the cheapest time to do so regardless. Translation: Now = Most $$$ for my parts, and they will depreciate faster than prices will fall... Posted by: rokza If the 8800 [B]GTX[/B] is going to be having trouble running crisis, then I don't think the 8800GTS 320MB will even be able to run crisis :( Am I right? If yes, then theres no scope of the 8600 Ultra running Crisis right??? P.S.: I was planning to buy the 8800GTS just so that I would be able to play DX10 games (especially CRISIS) Posted by: the:megalon This is a prediction. A bad and unaccurate prediction but: I really think with the right CPU, the 8800Gtx will do fine with Crysis at max settings. Shoot. Posted by: BennyV04988 We'll it's all speculation. No one knows for sure. We've SEEN it run though and it looks smooth. DX9 looks amazing too. Whats the difference between the DX9/10 in Crysis? Volumetric Partilces Motion Blur Depth of Field Denser light Is that it? Posted by: Ste Hey! I gots an IDEA! Why don't we wait until it comes out and then worry about it !!! Posted by: the:megalon Preparation is always best my friend. :D Posted by: augest The 8800 GTX is the best gaming card out on the market right now... An the game is suppose to come out this oct. The new card's set to come out this year is the R600, An 8900 / 8950 that is suppose to be the next biggest from the 8800 GTX's. Are you guy's guessing even these card's will have a problem too? Posted by: BennyV04988 we were told july for crysis, and the fact of the matter is, just as the thread states... the GTX's are all the rage...but will THEY really do the job? I just watched the videos on crysis-online. Yes... I believe they will do the job. Posted by: Sora I think the 8800GTX will play crysis just fine..even at 22inch res. It's simply too powerful of a card to be slowed by a few things in DX10 added. Posted by: the:megalon Yep. 8800Gtx all the way! Until '08. Darn. Posted by: rokza Hey, but what abt the 8800GTS and 8600 Ult. Will they be able to handle CRISIS? I don't have enuf cash to buy the GTX :( Posted by: Ste [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by the:megalon [/i] [B]Preparation is always best my friend. :D [/B][/QUOTE] Its wiser to wait a month ish after its been out so you know EXACTLY what you need, exactly what you can and cannot do. Posted by: the:megalon Darn, you got me there. Posted by: gmanych I hope I can run it max with over 40 fps Posted by: rokza [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rokza [/i] [B]Hey, but what abt the 8800GTS and 8600 Ult. Will they be able to handle CRISIS? I don't have enuf cash to buy the GTX :( [/B][/QUOTE] Errr...can someone please answer (predict) this question please! Posted by: b1gapl It probably will...but not at high settings. Posted by: rokza [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by b1gapl [/i] [B]It probably will...but not at high settings. [/B][/QUOTE] Sob.....that really puts me off. Posted by: Phantom118 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rokza [/i] [B]Sob.....that really puts me off. [/B][/QUOTE] Thats what I was thinking. If crysis requires that much power that a 8800GTX/GTS cannot run it on max... How high do you think sales will be? If only a handfull of people can run the game.. only a handfull of people are going to buy it... unless they all upgrade. A single 7800GTX will run the game quite well on fairly high settings according to Crysis Art Director, Michael Khaimzon. Recommended Requirements CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D) Graphics: Nvidia 7600 or ATI X1600 Pro (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent RAM: 1.5GB+ HDD: 6GB Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream) Optical Drive: DVD Software: DX9.0c with Windows XP This sounds reasonable to me. Posted by: maroon1 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by backup287 [/i] [B]lol they always say that, they just state low requirements so people will buy i remeber warcraft 3 said it needed a 32 mb video card and my buddy lagged with a 256 mb vid card!(he was not bottlenecked by ram or cpu) same with Aoe3 box says 64 mb video card but ive heard of people with 512 mb ones lagging on med those requirements are always exxagerated [/B][/QUOTE] Video memory has noting to do with the performance of the video card. For example, 128MB 6600GT can easily beat a 512MB 7300GS [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rokza [/i] [B]If the 8800 [B]GTX[/B] is going to be having trouble running crisis, then I don't think the 8800GTS 320MB will even be able to run crisis :( Am I right? [/B][/QUOTE] A 8800GTS 320MB will not run it !!!! Are you joking ? !! 8800GTS may not run it on Max settings but it will run it. I'm very sure that even 6600GT will run it. Posted by: rokza [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by maroon1 [/i] [B]Video memory has noting to do with the performance of the video card. For example, 128MB 6600GT can easily beat a 512MB 7300GS A 8800GTS 320MB will not run it !!!! Are you joking ? !! 8800GTS may not run it on Max settings but it will run it. I'm very sure that even 6600GT will run it. [/B][/QUOTE] Someone said that the 8880GTX is going to have trouble running CRISIS. So I made an assumption that if the best card in the market right now is going to have trouble running the game, than theres no way by which the 880GTS is going to NOT have trouble running it. Just an assumption! Will the 8600 Ultra be able to run the game??? I was planning to buy that when it released instead of buying the 8800GTS right now. Posted by: Phantom118 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rokza [/i] [B]Someone said that the 8880GTX is going to have trouble running CRISIS. So I made an assumption that if the best card in the market right now is going to have trouble running the game, than theres no way by which the 8800GTS is going to NOT have trouble running it. Just an assumption! Will the 8600 Ultra be able to run the game??? I was planning to buy that when it released instead of buying the 8800GTS right now. [/B][/QUOTE] I think the 8800GTX will completely destroy crysis. Like i said eairler it wouldn't be smart for the crytek to release a game that would be that demanding. Because not everyone can afford to upgrade. They want as many people as possible to buy the game so it wouldnt be economically smart to release it when only a handfull of people can play it. Posted by: b1gapl True... Posted by: will h4x 4 food Would you people stop worrying! Use some common sense please! the game is still in alpha stage(I think) so no one knows how its going to run except we know that it will run awesome on an 8800gtx. Go to Crysis-Online.com or Incrysis.com and watch the Village gameplay vids. That is running on an 8800gtx on DX10. Just remember that it's still not optimized Posted by: Sora Um can anyone remember Oblivion here? Back a year ago when Oblivion was released the only thing that could dare play it at 1600x1200 at full speed were like the GTX's and XTX's. Even they had trouble at some times. I think that the GTS will still play it at very good frames. Posted by: BennyV04988 Yeah... Oblivion is is far less complex though than crysis. [url]http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7437/147594_full.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.crysis-online.com/Media/Images/Screenshots/Jungle-Action-01.jpg[/url] I'd say the world detail is 3x denser. This is not to say that Crysis will run slower, it just means... crysis will have to SOMEHOW overcome that HUGE leap in detail, which can be done. Compare HL2 and R6 Vegas... One runs and looks amazing. The other looks like crap and runs like crap as well. Crysis is the first DX10 game and it looks AMAZING. These programers are going to make it as efficient as possible, just like Valve did with HL2. The DX10 might even be FASTER than DX9, it is a unified shader/vertex afterall. I would not let massive graphics make you feel like Crysis is too much for your cards to handle. It is going to be extremely efficient. We've all seen the videos. It runs fine. It handles huge open areas with ease. The videos you've seen also are using V-sync, if you didn't notice. P.S. - The new tech demo looks phenominal. You can see the motion in another clip realllly well too. Posted by: backup287 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Phantom118 [/i] [B]I think the 8800GTX will completely destroy crysis. Like i said eairler it wouldn't be smart for the crytek to release a game that would be that demanding. Because not everyone can afford to upgrade. They want as many people as possible to buy the game so it wouldnt be economically smart to release it when only a handfull of people can play it. [/B][/QUOTE] Most game companies dont really care what people have in their computer as long as it looks good in E3 and as long as people think it's gonna look good on their computer.(hence the low reuirements of the site) with the exception of blizzards brilliant mmorpg wow which is a fun and does not demand much. But you never know we can wait and see Posted by: Sora [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by BennyV04988 [/i] [B]Yeah... Oblivion is is far less complex though than crysis. [url]http://www.gamershell.com/static/screenshots/7437/147594_full.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.crysis-online.com/Media/Images/Screenshots/Jungle-Action-01.jpg[/url] I'd say the world detail is 3x denser. This is not to say that Crysis will run slower, it just means... crysis will have to SOMEHOW overcome that HUGE leap in detail, which can be done. Compare HL2 and R6 Vegas... One runs and looks amazing. The other looks like crap and runs like crap as well. Crysis is the first DX10 game and it looks AMAZING. These programers are going to make it as efficient as possible, just like Valve did with HL2. The DX10 might even be FASTER than DX9, it is a unified shader/vertex afterall. I would not let massive graphics make you feel like Crysis is too much for your cards to handle. It is going to be extremely efficient. We've all seen the videos. It runs fine. It handles huge open areas with ease. The videos you've seen also are using V-sync, if you didn't notice. P.S. - The new tech demo looks phenominal. You can see the motion in another clip realllly well too. [/B][/QUOTE] Oblivion is also over a year old and will be a year and a half older than Crysis too so it's to be expected. If it wasn't more graphically advanced and more detail then we wouldn't be moving up in design would we. I still think that the GTS will play it at pretty much full quality regardless...DX10 isn't going to add too many incredible features that will cut the frames down by half or anything. Posted by: BennyV04988 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sora [/i] [B]Oblivion is also over a year old and will be a year and a half older than Crysis too so it's to be expected. If it wasn't more graphically advanced and more detail then we wouldn't be moving up in design would we. I still think that the GTS will play it at pretty much full quality regardless...DX10 isn't going to add too many incredible features that will cut the frames down by half or anything. [/B][/QUOTE] I never said it shouldn't be advanced. Of course it will blow it away in graphics. *duh*. I'm saying theres no justification in comparing Crysis' performance with a poor engined game such as Oblivion, because thats like saying HL2 should run like crap because R6 Vegas does. It's all in the programming, and how efficient it is. Furthermore, DX10 is HUGELY efficient over DX9. So if they do there best... it will run insanely well. Posted by: lancec2c30 Their is a difference between "running" a game and "maxing it out". The budget cards will "run" crisis in dx10 mode. but it won't "max it out". So, for example a 8800gts will play crisis maxed at 1280x1024. but not 1600x1200. Posted by: Sora the 8800GTX is not a "budget" card though at all. Was the 7800GTX a budget card back then? No it still is really powerful. I still believe that the GTX will max out crysis at 1600x1200 Posted by: Ste Im still angry that they pushed the release date back. I wanted to build my computer a Month after it came out... But I guess I will have to build it anyways and wait. But we all have to accept that waiting is a good thing. After all it gives them time to make a great game even better. Posted by: Sora Heh yea...most things get pushed back and we know this from experience. It'll be a great game though regardless Posted by: Phantom118 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Ste [/i] [B]Im still angry that they pushed the release date back. I wanted to build my computer a Month after it came out... But I guess I will have to build it anyways and wait. But we all have to accept that waiting is a good thing. After all it gives them time to make a great game even better. [/B][/QUOTE] I hate when they push back release dates... but i suppose you have a point there... They pushed HL2 Episode 2 back to Q3.. sometime in the fall.... Posted by: the:megalon Sora has an excellent point. 8800Gtx is the first card to become compatible with dx10, and what we've been hearing from dx10 with the 8800 series will be phenomenal, or at least outstanding (exageration?). So why would nvidia make a crappy card that's supposed to be on the new pathway for dx10? When a company makes a product that is going to set a new pathway, in this case dx10, they want to make it attractive and performance-valued. It's like a debut. For example, when Intel announced they would have Intel Core 2 Duo, people were questioning if it would still be able to handle games in the far away future, and Intel did an excellent job of attracting customers with the powerful C2D. Of course, the E6300 and the E6700 is a big jump in performance, just like what the 8800gtx will be to the other cards arriving in the 800 series, but the E6300 is still an incredible and powerful chip, just like the 8800gtx is. What I'm saying is, nvidia focused on making the dx10 powerful and worthy to be play, so they focused on making a great card to start things off. They wouldn't start off with a "mediocre" card that wouldn't play 07' games because that would plunge doubt of the future 800 series cards within people's minds. Fortunately, nvidia did an excellent job on their debut. Kutos and more to nvidia... I think. Posted by: Sora Exactly...going from what we have seen in the past with the 7800GTX and 7900GTX these are really powerful and expensive cards. They are NOT Budget cards in the least. Posted by: TheEnd187 just a long shot but you think two 8800gtxs or 2950's in sli/crossfire would handle cry at max ie. 2600x1600 aa,af,hdr cranked all the way up or will it just melt your rig? Posted by: the:megalon Crysis will definitely take advantage of dx10 and the 800 series, so yes, it will use alot of the power. But once again, if you look at the benchmarking and fps tests, ONE 8800gtx is absolutely powerful. When people are saying that 8800gtx is overated, in fact it's underated, people just don't realize how much power there is in them. Especially in SLI. Of course you need a great cpu that can keep up with, but basically, the 8800gtx has so much power that you need so much other hardware to match and put out its potential. Judging in Crysis's gameplay and graphics, (which look wonderful), I think one 8800gtx will be able to handle it with Vista and dx10, like I said before, nvidia focused on making their first dx10 compatible card attractive and forging a new pathway for dx10 features. Posted by: Sora I highly doubt they could handle Crisis at that ratio.. the difference between 1600x1200 and 2600x1600 is more than double the amount of space to fill. That would be really hard to do. Posted by: the:megalon Sorry to doubt, but: are you sure? The 8800's are pretttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttty powerful. Really powerful :/ Just wondering... Posted by: Sora They are very powerful and might be able to pull it off on everything high but if your talking about the area amount of pixels the 1600x1200 has 1,920,000 pixels while 2600x1600 have 4,160,000 That is more than double and your using double cards. Im my head the 8800GTX will just be able to handle Crisis at that res but anything higher would be stretching it. Posted by: the:megalon Alrighty. Darn the fast flow of technology. Posted by: macdawg "I still think that the GTS will play it at pretty much full quality regardless...DX10 isn't going to add too many incredible features that will cut the frames down by half or anything." it is contradictory to talk about how great and new and advanced the graphics are then on the other hand say its not adding much. you know that each extra level of detail and the huge environments add to the workload involved in running the game. even if it is the best programmed game in the world it will still take a beast to run on high res or high settings because the game is so friggin' detailed. "So why would nvidia make a crappy card that's supposed to be on the new pathway for dx10?" each time a new dx version is released, traditionally the first series of cards that come out for that version are fairly weak. look at nvidias fx series, their first dx9 cards, those cards struggled heavily in dx9, we haven't even seen the 8800's run in dx10, no benchmarks available, so this is all speculation....this is also a major reason why more people aren't buying the 8800 series yet, they want to wait for 1-2 more generations of dx10 cards being released and be able to see benchmarks so they know their card isn't only dx10, but it runs dx10 games well. Of course the developer says it runs on high on a 7800gtx, of course their requirements are low, that will help them sell games. A lot of factors in this besides video card, your cpu, your os, ram, what settings and resolution your running at. I think speculating that an 8800gtx much less a 7800gtx will run the game at 1600x1200 on high is ridiculous at this point. Posted by: Sora [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by macdawg [/i] [B]ridiculous [/B][/QUOTE] Ridiculous? So thinking the $560 card you just payed for that is DX10 compatible won't play the first DX10 game on high? In no way is it "ridiculous" It wouldn't be a shock if it didn't but still in no way is it wrong to think that it will. Posted by: BennyV04988 I just played far cry for a few hours... perfect fps on my 7900GT Oblivion... all over the place.. including the single digits. I'd say that farcry is more detailed than oblivion too. :) so what have we learned? You can't predict performance based upon screenshots! Posted by: Ste I never could figure out how to make farcry maps... :( vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. PPC Management vB Easy Archive Final - Created by Xenon |