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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 ram voltage(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: nagasama hey all. i have corsair xms pc-6400c4 ram. shut up sora lol. i currently run it (normally) at 4-4-4-12 @2.1v 430ishmhz. i can run it at 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v at 500mhz. i am wondering what is the highest safe (sic. its not on fire)voltage to put to it? i dont want to fry it, but i do want to try and get it up to like...ddr2-1100+. lol i know corsair says 2.1v, but i dont think it will push much past ddr2-1000 with that. anyone care to give input? Posted by: Sora OMG HAHA I really didn't even plan on coming here and i clicked on the link to find your like "shut up sora" lmfao wonderful. My friend had XMS2 and he used to use 2.3 and it was safe. he fried it though on a type-o of 2.7 by using the number pad ( meant to type in 4 HAHAHA) but anyway I would say try 2.3 at least and see what you can get. Posted by: nagasama roger that. i figured i would probably be safe to 2.4 but eh, i just wanted to have a second (or third or fourth lol) opinion. Posted by: wongb18c Hey, I never really OCed before so forgive me. Recently, I just put together a new system and want to try it...... I did read some basics on the topic on a few sites but there's still a lot I don't understand. So I want to ask a quick question regarding RAM voltage and RAM clocking.... I have 1GB stick of Corsair DDR2 800mhz (400mhz) RAM in my system right now... it's running at 2.1V. Basically, from what I understand and from what I read, you want to OC the RAM freq so that it at least matches my CPU FSB freq. For my Intel E6600CPU, the FSB is supposedly at 1066mhz. So can I increase the RAM freq by 200mhz WITHOUT increasing the voltage (say 2.3V)?? Also, my motherboard doesn't allow me to just "input" a RAM freq, I have to select from a very limited list of RAM SPD multipliers.... so I just wanted to know if this is indeed the way it's done? If I bought another stick of the same RAM and ran dual channel, would this remedy the problem without having to OC? Also, one last newbie question, what's the difference between internal clock and external clock? Hope someone helps clarify some basics for me, thanks. Posted by: lancec2c30 ^^^ You would benefit a lot more info wise if you posted your own topic :). Nagasma; send it through the roof lol :D. You seem to have good luck with the crazy voltages in your system. Posted by: Lord AnthraX Anything over 2.4 for DDR2, 24/7 will fry the ram in about a weeks time. Unless you have Cell Shock ram which can take up to 3.2 Posted by: nagasama yeah, well...its really no matter as my mobo wont let me supply ram with over 2.3V @ that voltage i can run ddr2-1100 4-4-4-12-22-2T all day long. woot. Posted by: Lord AnthraX I can run DDR2-1150 at 4-4-4-12-18-1T @ 2.3 Posted by: Sora Thats quite overkill though...C2D have been tested to run best at CL4 while most people think that CL3 would be better, it's not though on a C2D. Cheap G.Skill HK ram can do DDR2-1000 at 4-4-4-10 quite easily and cost about 100 less than your RAM. It just depends on the person and what they want. Once again yea I say 2.3v is about the max you want to go. Posted by: Wildside wait a minute guys, i thought the lower the voltage, the better in RAM. Reason DDR3 is being made is to have lower voltage but perform at higher frequenzies, so y increase ur RAM's voltage if u know that it's just going to damage it sooner? EDIT: here is the RAM ill be getting later this year when Agena FX hits *i know i said 2 x 2GB but from what ive learned about how much RAM 32 bit Vista takes, im just gonna get 2 pairs of 1GB sticks*. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034[/url] i will be glad to OC it, but again, is it necessary to raise the voltage? Posted by: Sora The Lower the voltage may be better for the chip but the higher voltage will allow better OC options. For instance .1v may get you another 50mhz or so on your chip. So to put it simple. The Higher the voltage from stock, the higher it will overclock. Posted by: Wildside [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sora [/i] [B]The Lower the voltage may be better for the chip but the higher voltage will allow better OC options. For instance .1v may get you another 50mhz or so on your chip. So to put it simple. The Higher the voltage from stock, the higher it will overclock. [/B][/QUOTE] hmm i see, n reason for DDR3 at lower voltage but higher frequencies means that when it comes out, ppl will be able to OC it to much higher frequencies then DDR2 can, right? well if it's OCing that is good for ur RAM by raising the voltage, then so be it. Just one problem thought, the heat spreaders on high voltage RAM, around 2.1 n up, dont u think we need something better then a heat spreader to support those higher voltages that u set ur RAM to? Like heatsinks or something? Posted by: Sora No, heatspreaders these days work on chips work until as stated around 2.4v Heat spreaders can keep them plenty cool enough until then and most RAM that is rated at 2.0-2.1 stock are already at really high speeds or really tight timings so not much overclock is needed. In reply to the ram you say you are getting do NOT get Corsair XMS2. I repeat do NOT as the proMOS chips in them aren't really that good and they are quite expensive. XMS2 has HORRIBLE Price/performance ratio honestly and they have a hard time going past DDR2-1000 as you see Nagasama is having. Ask him yourself what to get right now and he knows as everyone else that G.Skill is the best. If your getting a new system and want good ram I suggest one of these two [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231084[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231114[/url] Both will max out an overclock on a system with the HK's (white ones) being a little faster. Still don't get XMS2 over say G.Skill or even Firestix >.> Posted by: Wildside [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sora [/i] [B]No, heatspreaders these days work on chips work until as stated around 2.4v Heat spreaders can keep them plenty cool enough until then and most RAM that is rated at 2.0-2.1 stock are already at really high speeds or really tight timings so not much overclock is needed. In reply to the ram you say you are getting do NOT get Corsair XMS2. I repeat do NOT as the proMOS chips in them aren't really that good and they are quite expensive. XMS2 has HORRIBLE Price/performance ratio honestly and they have a hard time going past DDR2-1000 as you see Nagasama is having. Ask him yourself what to get right now and he knows as everyone else that G.Skill is the best. If your getting a new system and want good ram I suggest one of these two [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231084[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231114[/url] Both will max out an overclock on a system with the HK's (white ones) being a little faster. Still don't get XMS2 over say G.Skill or even Firestix >.> [/B][/QUOTE] wow thx for warning me, n i thought CORSAIR was a good brand, correct me if im wrong on that. thx for the links n both r the same, but differ timings. One is 5-5-5-15, n the other is 4-4-3-5, both a .1v difference. Which one should i go with? I would love to OC the RAM n actually get the timings down, maybe even save myself money. If not, then i have no problem getting the 4-4-3-5, just have to OC it more to have less timing :). 2.4v is the danger zone for most or all DDR2 800 SDRAM, right? Posted by: Sora Corsair do make good ram, just OVERPRICED gaming RAM. Their value ram is excellent but their XMS2 line is just overpriced to ****. It doesn't really matter as both will go plenty fast as you need. I have the NR green and they hit DDR2-1130 at 2.2v 5-5-5-15. The HK's are a little better though so to be safe you could just get those as they are amazing chips for the price. Still it doesn't matter and you could just save yourself 20 bucks. EDIT: Not all as Cell Shock ram can hit 3.2v....quite amazing. it all depends on the quality of the RAM but for the most part 2.4 is the voltage most people don't like to try and hit. Posted by: Wildside [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sora [/i] [B]Corsair do make good ram, just OVERPRICED gaming RAM. Their value ram is excellent but their XMS2 line is just overpriced to ****. It doesn't really matter as both will go plenty fast as you need. I have the NR green and they hit DDR2-1130 at 2.2v 5-5-5-15. The HK's are a little better though so to be safe you could just get those as they are amazing chips for the price. Still it doesn't matter and you could just save yourself 20 bucks. EDIT: Not all as Cell Shock ram can hit 3.2v....quite amazing. it all depends on the quality of the RAM but for the most part 2.4 is the voltage most people don't like to try and hit. [/B][/QUOTE] o i see. Well, is there a difference from 5-5-5-15 performance from 4-4-3-5? If I OCed the 5-5-5-15 RAM, n of course save myself money, it wouldnt be no difference to the 4-4-3-5? i understand that lower timings is better n all, but from what ive read about RAM on these forums, the lower, the more 'tight' the timings r. 'Tight' as in, what? Not good anymore? EDIT: here r my timings, reading from CPU-Z top to bottom so bear with me: -Frequency: 174.5 MHz -FSB: DRAM: CPU/11 -timings: 2.5-3-3-10 -Command Rate: 2T -DRAM Idle Timer: 16 clocks Posted by: Sora Both will hit CL4 at say DDR2-1000 but the HK may have tighter timings in 4 say 4-4-3-9 opposed to 4-4-4-10 or 4-4-4-12. In the end it doesnt matter what the other timings are nearly as much as the first one, the CAS. Posted by: Wildside [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sora [/i] [B]Both will hit CL4 at say DDR2-1000 but the HK may have tighter timings in 4 say 4-4-3-9 opposed to 4-4-4-10 or 4-4-4-12. In the end it doesnt matter what the other timings are nearly as much as the first one, the CAS. [/B][/QUOTE] but isnt tighter timings........bad in a way? EDIT: ive decided to get the NR, so i can save myself money. Thx for the help Sora. Posted by: nagasama [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Wildside [/i] [B]but isnt tighter timings........bad in a way? [/B][/QUOTE] not really. only that you have to apply more voltage. and that isnt that big of a deal if you dont go crazy. vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. PPC Management vB Easy Archive Final - Created by Xenon |