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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 These speakers are pretty good!(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: ml1209 I just bought these from Wal-mart tonight. They are 2.0 speakers for $59.97 plus tax. [img]http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2849/0002661602563500x500am4.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5044151[/url] Philips MMS321 speakers, which I can't find on anyone else's website. No subwoofer, but each speaker is rated for 20W, total system power 40W, with peak at 80W. There are no controls on these speakers for bass or treble, just the volume. I like the look of these with their brushed metal face, and black trim and housing. Very understated and elegant. But the bottom line is they sound GREAT for a 2.0 system. Bass is strong, and the music coming out is crisp and clean. You won't mistake these for a 2.1 system, though, but if you want a small footprint and no sub to deal with, these are hard to beat. The only other 2.0 speakers I would get would be the Creative Gigaworks T20 speakers, but they are sold at around $40 more. The only thing I didn't like about the Philips MMS321 system is that the amplifier on the power cord is HUGE. I mean it's a monster, about the size of a Holy Bible. Considering the price and the quality of sound, though, that's a minor quibble. I wonder why it is not more readily available. Newegg doesn't carry Philips PC speakers, and most the reviews I found on the web on it were from the UK. Overall, I am happy with this purchase. Here is a link to the Amazon page on it. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Philips-MMS321-Channel-Multimedia-Speakers/dp/B000FCN6SG[/url] And here is a Youtube video of someone demonstrating their MMS321 speakers. (Pretty impressive) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhaqQc4ZjYQ&watch_response[/url] Posted by: rkf76 Dayum bro, you got ripped. For $10 more you could have picked up these bad boys from Fry's like I did tonight. [IMG]http://www.e-lite.ee/pood/images/ladu/54002.jpg[/IMG] The subwoofer hits like you wouldn't believe!! The mids and highs are nice, although I could use a bit more in the way of midbass, but there wasn't another set of speakers within $50 of these that sounded even close to as good as these do. Posted by: ml1209 I didn't want a subwoofer. I was looking specifically for a 2.0 system since I already have a good one for my desktop. The above Philips set was for my laptop. But I am always eager to hear about other people's recommendations. I'll keep that Philips 2.1 system in mind, and check it out at Frys's later. Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ml1209 [/i] [B]I didn't want a subwoofer. I was looking specifically for a 2.0 system since I already have a good one for my desktop. The above Philips set was for my laptop. But I am always eager to hear about other people's recommendations. I'll keep that Philips 2.1 system in mind, and check it out at Frys's later. [/B][/QUOTE]Ah, that makes sense. I guess the 2.1 system would be a bit much for a laptop Posted by: Crysalis lol - both of those are pretty.... lets just say.... bad Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crysalis [/i] [B]lol - both of those are pretty.... lets just say.... bad [/B][/QUOTE]In comparison to the Bose Companion 3 system, true story. Name a better performing set of speakers for the PC than the one's I listed for the price of $69.99 Posted by: 003 Are you trying to suggest that the Bose Companion 3 are any good? Posted by: K M A N Logitech X-230's, There. Done. Bose suck, there speaker boi wannabe speakers. Posted by: Crysalis [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rkf76 [/i] [B]In comparison to the Bose Companion 3 system, true story. [/B][/QUOTE] AHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have not heard SPEAKERS. :p Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]Logitech X-230's, There. Done. [/B][/QUOTE]Oh really? I seen those at Fry's yesterday but they didn't have any on display, I may have to check try those out. Posted by: K M A N Yeh they sound good, but there havnt got much 'oomph'. If you want a bit more oomph your better off checking out the X-530 or the Z2300's. The X-530's are fine for the casual gamer or herdened music listener because there quite loud and for the money sound great with music. The X-230's are an upgrade to most 2.1 speaker systems, They deliver great sound with a punchy sub-woofer, but dont expect anything ground shaking. - Fine for everyday use if you want some quality. The Z2300's are quite a bit more expensive, but certainly have the power to drive any application or need and the quality remains through the volumes. The Z5500's should be the heart of any Enthusiastic gamer or Music listener. VERY Loud with gteat qulaity audio certified by THX. But do come in a LOT more expensive then previous models mentioned. The Subwoofe ralone on the Z5500's is more than Twice the TOTAL power of the X-530 system. Posted by: K M A N [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crysalis [/i] [B]AHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have not heard SPEAKERS. :p [/B][/QUOTE] I agree with you Crysalis. Bose are fanboy speakers. There dont match the sound quality of any real speaker brands. If you want some real speakers go here > [url]http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/[/url] AE Aegis EVo 3 speakers were once regarded the best sounding speakers on sale, no matter what price bracket you like at, some argue wih this now, but many dont. (Including ME, as a proud owner of some AE's.) (Sound REAL nice hooked up to a Denon amp running Pro Logic II) They DONT do a bad system.... even there bottom end speakers will outperform 95 percent of the Home Theatre system market and 100 percent that of ANY pc speakers. $1300 ! ! ! For these > [url]http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=am16_surround_photos#tabs[/url] < Bose's high end system, howd you expect any SOUND to come out of them PUNY things. These are REAL speakers > [url]http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Product_range/Aegis_series/Aegis_evo_3.asp[/url] You can tell just by looking at them. Arnt they beautiful :). That the model i own, except i ahve it in 7.1 Config :p Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]Yeh they sound good, but there havnt got much 'oomph'. If you want a bit more oomph your better off checking out the X-530 or the Z2300's. The X-530's are fine for the casual gamer or herdened music listener because there quite loud and for the money sound great with music. The X-230's are an upgrade to most 2.1 speaker systems, They deliver great sound with a punchy sub-woofer, but dont expect anything ground shaking. - Fine for everyday use if you want some quality. The Z2300's are quite a bit more expensive, but certainly have the power to drive any application or need and the quality remains through the volumes. The Z5500's should be the heart of any Enthusiastic gamer or Music listener. VERY Loud with gteat qulaity audio certified by THX. But do come in a LOT more expensive then previous models mentioned. The Subwoofe ralone on the Z5500's is more than Twice the TOTAL power of the X-530 system. [/B][/QUOTE]Wow, nice info there. I currently have the Creative SBS 2.1 350, the bass is almost nonexistent. I only feel good about them after listening to the oem ipod earbuds. Posted by: Snake-Eyes Those type of speakers always sound horrible to my hears. Can't stand them. :( Posted by: K M A N What type of speakers ? ? ? Posted by: rkf76 I went and picked up the Logitech X-230 speakers from Office Max this afternoon, and after listening to them against the Phillips speakers I got last night it was clear to me that the Logitech's were better so the Phillips went back to Fry's. The subwoofer on the Phillips was a bit more powerful, but the crispness of the Logitech's, as well as the convenience of the headphone port on the front of one of the speakers, and the $20 savings made this choice a no brainer. Posted by: DarkMortar I have logitech z-5300e they are fun. Posted by: Snake-Eyes [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]What type of speakers ? ? ? [/B][/QUOTE] The ones in the first post. I can't remember what they are called, though. Posted by: Crysalis [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]If you want some real speakers go here > [url]http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/[/url] [/B][/QUOTE] nope here: [url]http://www.vonschweikert.com/[/url] Posted by: rkf76 Wow, I don't see any PC speakers there, imagine that. Posted by: Crysalis the cheapest single speaker they have is $1,000.... the most expensive is 150,000. Posted by: Snake-Eyes [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by rkf76 [/i] [B]Wow, I don't see any PC speakers there, imagine that. [/B][/QUOTE] The only thing that really discerns "PC speakers" versus any other type of speaker is that generally, "PC speakers" are small with not as much range as other speakers. Granted, no, i wouldn't necessarily want my own speakers sitting on top of my desk, one, because they'd probably break it, and two, because there's just plain not enough room. Realistically, the only thing that is different about "PC speakers" is they are smaller. Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Snake-Eyes [/i] [B]The only thing that really discerns "PC speakers" versus any other type of speaker is that generally, "PC speakers" are small with not as much range as other speakers. Granted, no, i wouldn't necessarily want my own speakers sitting on top of my desk, one, because they'd probably break it, and two, because there's just plain not enough room. Realistically, the only thing that is different about "PC speakers" is they are smaller. [/B][/QUOTE]Considering that this is a computer technology forum, and a thread about pc speakers, one would expect references to speakers would be made in regards to those of the smaller size that are dedicated PC pieces. I know the one's posted could be used with a PC. I know i'm being literal, sue me. In any case, i'm really liking the X-230's, they are head and shoulders better than the POS Creative 350's I had, and while they don't hit nearly as hard as the Phillips, they do have better SQ which is more important to me anyway. Posted by: EricB [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crysalis [/i] [B]nope here: [url]http://www.vonschweikert.com/[/url] [/B][/QUOTE] I dream on those. Bose is a joke Posted by: ml1209 Well, I toyed with the idea of returning these speakers because they don't have the oomph of my 2.1 system, but it's late at night now, and I disconnected my 2.1 system and put these Philips on instead. It's a more lighter sound for nighttime listening without the boom of the subwoofer. Plus, the music coming out is still clean and clear, just not overpowering. There is a time for everything. Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ml1209 [/i] [B]Well, I toyed with the idea of returning these speakers because they don't have the oomph of my 2.1 system, but it's late at night now, and I disconnected my 2.1 system and put these Philips on instead. It's a more lighter sound for nighttime listening without the boom of the subwoofer. Plus, the music coming out is still clean and clear, just not overpowering. There is a time for everything. [/B][/QUOTE]true story. It all just depends on your expectations from your speakers. Posted by: ml1209 I also adjusted the equalizer to maximize the bass and it sounds so much better. Also, the fact these speakers are two feet from my face on either side of my monitor also help in their perceived power. They sound great. You DO need to play with the equalizer to get rid of the flat sound. Posted by: K M A N Crysalis and EriB, ive herd of them speakers... but am i right in saying the speakers themselves are not designed by them, they simply make the speaker encasements and take all the best speaker drivers in each category from different brands, and put them together ?, that may be a different company... But i swear it wa sthis one :p. However good they maybe, you cant deny that Acoustic Energy, in comparison to bose, are LEAGUES ahead, and for the vast majority of speakers out there, none are as good as the AE's ?. Except the ones you linked above :p. Posted by: K M A N rkf76, it seems you are happy with the X-230's i reccomended, well if you think there good, i simply cant wait fro you to try there surround sound brother, the X-530's :). Im not trying to make you spend money, just a worthwile investment. It will cost you a little, but the reward is worth it. Take your X-230 Speakers back, get the money, spend a bit more mney and get the Z-2300's. Better Sound but instead of 32w RMS for the X-230's, you get 200W RMS, But still only a 2.1 system. They are doubly the money, but a lot more than double the power and sound quality. So if you have the spare money, i really advise you to consider it. And if your feeling really smug get your self an audio card :). Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]rkf76, it seems you are happy with the X-230's i reccomended, well if you think there good, i simply cant wait fro you to try there surround sound brother, the X-530's :). Im not trying to make you spend money, just a worthwile investment. It will cost you a little, but the reward is worth it. Take your X-230 Speakers back, get the money, spend a bit more mney and get the Z-2300's. Better Sound but instead of 32w RMS for the X-230's, you get 200W RMS, But still only a 2.1 system. They are doubly the money, but a lot more than double the power and sound quality. So if you have the spare money, i really advise you to consider it. And if your feeling really smug get your self an audio card :). [/B][/QUOTE]Yeah bro, very, very happy with them. I can detect some port noise from time to time, but I really have to pay really close attention to hear it.........and it's not all the time. I think it's just a certain frequency that this happens........I listen to mainly rap and r & b music, if that matters. But yeah man, these are pretty nice. Thanks for the suggestion! Not only do they sound better, they put some money back in my pocket at the same time, I'll take that everytime. As for the Z-2300's, I can only imagine how those things sound, surely incredible, but that's a bit overkill for me at this point. The X-230's perfect for both my taste and my budget. As for a sound card, will getting one give me any increased SQ with my current setup? I have an HP Pavillion and am using the onboard sound. Thanks for you help Posted by: ml1209 Eventually I will get a set of Klipsch Promedia 2.1 myself. Until then these Philips will do nicely. Posted by: K M A N SQ?, You mean Sound Quality ?, Because if you do then the asnwer is. Yes, A Lot better. The bass will be tighter, the mids, highs will be crisper. Games will play better because of EAX. Your speakers cant come to life without a dedicated soundcard. Infact if you bought an SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS of SoundBlaster X-Fi ExtremeMusic, well you would be amazed :). Your jaw would drop to the floor and never return because of the vast improvement, and you will be shoving your ears infront of the subwoofer trying to pick out dodgy sounds, but truth is, you will never find one :). Even if you grab yourself a SoundBlaster Live 24Bit the improvement will still be very noticeable and highly worth it. I can highly reccomend any of the soundblaster series, X-Fi being the Best, Audigy series being very good, Live being very cheep, and still brings a smile to your face. Out of personal preferance i would say choose a card in the X-Fi series, especially the ExtremeMusic. Even the XtremeMusic hardly breaks the bank :). But if you just want a good improvement (I actually mean very good) Then get the SB Live Card. Posted by: DarkMortar actually get the logitech z-5300e, the x-530 big brother... because they sound big and loud and cool, and actually the biggest difference is that they are much clearer and more balanced sounding than te x530 i had before, yet i will say... the x530's sub put out a lot for its size constraint. yet the x530 makes a lot of port hole noise at max bass, and goes out of control under certain low freqs. while the z5300e, doesnt do that... Posted by: rkf76 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by K M A N [/i] [B]SQ?, You mean Sound Quality ?, Because if you do then the asnwer is. Yes, A Lot better. The bass will be tighter, the mids, highs will be crisper. Your speakers cant come to life without a dedicated soundcard. Infact if you bought an SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS of SoundBlaster X-Fi ExtremeMusic, well you would be amazed :). Your jaw would drop to the floor and never return because of the vast improvement, and you will be shoving your ears infront of the subwoofer trying to pick out dodgy sounds, but truth is, you will never find one :). Even if you grab yourself a SoundBlaster Live 24Bit the improvement will still be very noticeable and highly worth it. I can highly reccomend any of the soundblaster series, X-Fi being the Best, Audigy series being very good, Live being very cheep, and still brings a smile to your face. Out of personal preferance i would say choose a card in the X-Fi series, especially the ExtremeMusic. Even the XtremeMusic hardly breaks the bank :). But if you just want a good improvement (I actually mean very good) Then get the SB Live Card. [/B][/QUOTE]Yep, Sound quality. I'll look around and see how much those cards go for, if it's not too much then I might as well get a nice one. But if they're pricey then I'll try one of the lower level one's and see how that works out. All sound cards fit into PCI slots, right? Reason I ask is because I don't want to get a card for this PC that I won't be able to use on my next build. ***Looks like the X-Fi XtremeAudio card is gonna be the one I go with, it's only $50 and looks to have all the features I'll ever need. I don't game so it's gonna be for music and movies only. vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. PPC Management vB Easy Archive Final - Created by Xenon |