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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 Help me out with my career please..:((Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: adida948 i do like mathematics and my uncle is a Computer technician and a graphic designer , so it seems a natural that i am studying about computers in college. Ok.. so i just began my second semester in college. Supposedly, my major is computer science. However. my dad said I should consider computer engineer. now that he told me that... i don't know what to follow.. cs or cen.. I would like to learn stuff about OS how pc works internally (hardware), write programs and be involved in how the internet works.. and being able to have hand on experience with computers... like building one, knowing the bios aand what each option does... being able to supervise a newtwork. being able to create new prgrams or hardwares.. know how electricity works. etc.. O,o i would also like to be part of an experiment.. something like creating my own pc... with extra feautures. i am also interested in programming.. but not to the point of learnign everything about it.. It would be great if you could tell me some things about studying computers in college. Why is it separate from engineering? How are the classes different? And which career makes more money? Posted by: starkmann Why is is seperate? One is about amps and volts and relays and the other is typically about C++ and Java. A lot of people can't understand both. If you can, you are gifted and should definitely take advantage of that. How are the classes different? I tooks some CS and it's about languages and coding structure. I only took one engineering course and it was about how to send the right pulses to a processor to make an LCD count down using jumper switches. Which makes more money? That depends on you. In the end, which degree you choose has less control over you life than your own interests and ability to self motivate. I would be excited if I were you. You are extremely interested in two fields that meet at an exciting place. Sure pick one for a degree but study the other in your spare time, get a minor or a double major. A guy who can code and do engineering stuff seems like a great guy for drivers and OS stuff, heck even writing a new computer language. Posted by: jaeusm [QUOTE] and being able to have hand on experience with computers... like building one, knowing the bios aand what each option does[/QUOTE] You [B]will not[/B] learn this in either major. [QUOTE]It would be great if you could tell me some things about studying computers in college. Why is it separate from engineering? How are the classes different? And which career makes more money?[/QUOTE] I went through computer engineering as an undergraduate student and computer science as a graduate student. To answer your first question, computer science deals more with abstraction and software design/development (though not as much as a software engineering curriculum). Computer engineering is a bit of a hybrid degree: half computer science and half electrical engineering. Some university curriculums skew the degree more toward electrical engineering while others skew the degree toward computer science. You need to understand that your degree [B]does not[/B] dictate your career. For instance, go to a job search engine like Dice.com and search for computer related jobs. You'll see that many of them that are programming jobs don't really care what your degree is in (computer science, computer engineering, electrical engineering, etc.), as long as it is a technical degree. You should also be aware that what you learn during the course of your college career will only be the tip of the iceberg. Your degree will provide you with a solid base of information. However, you will still have a great deal to learn once you get into the workforce. Your degree is just the starting point, and it helps facilitate the additional learning you will have to do for the rest of your career. Posted by: adida948 which degree offers more jobs? since Computer ENG is like a hybrid as you pointed out.. would i have more opportunities if i graduate witha Cen degree than a CS degree?? Posted by: jaeusm You're missing the point. Either degree will give you an equally good chance of getting the same job. Choose the degree that [B]interests[/B] you more. Getting a job will depend on several things when you graduate, least of which is whether your degree is CE or CS. For instance: 1. Getting an interview. Each year thousands of students will graduate with degrees in computer science or engineering. What sets you apart? 2. Do you have any real experience (internships or co-ops) in the same field as the job to which you are applying? Coursework doesn't count here. 3. Have you worked on any large/impressive projects outside of your classes while in school? Or have you done any research with professors outside of class? The bottom line is that the degree you earn does not limit your career choices. Professionally, I'm a software developer with an MS in CS. However, we have software developers at this company with degrees in electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, and no degrees at all. What gives you the best opportunities is your experience and the skills you bring to the table. Regardless of what your professors or university officials may say (most of them are horribly out of touch with what goes on in the industry because they've never left academia), I'm giving you solid advice. You may not like to hear this, but when you finally finish your schooling, you will have only scratched the surface of what you will need to learn. Posted by: adida948 wow this is the best advice i've had.. u are probably right about my profesors.. hey i would also like to know.. what kind of things i can do with a cs degree or a ce degree.. ok let's say i get a ce degree..if i want to have a higher iducation what would that be? a masters in computer engineer? phd is there such a thing.. Posted by: adida948 so i am interested in develping programs but also in knowing how a pc works.. how each part (hardware) makes pcs run... etc...what to do when your pc gets damage.. more like a pc technitian.. but i wouldn't like to spend all my time fixing pcs/ i want to invent create something.. that would help ppl.. so for instance in cs i would be able to create a program... this would be a great achievment for me.. specially if i create a very good one.. i am the kind of guy who likes challanges and likes to spend lots of time solving problems.. and trying to find a solution... i am the guy who like to invent say.. hey why do i have to do it this way.. why is the mouse like that.. and that like this.. why why why. i like to question a lot.. and like to be able to answer my own questions...also i would like to learn a little bit not much about circuits how voltage works..... and.. also i would like to know stuff about the internet and webpages... i am not good at drawing so i wouldn't really like to study graphic designer but i would like to have some knowledge about photoshop... macromedia flash.... dreamweaver///etc//.BUT I DON"T want to spend my life coding.. coding coding.. i would like to work in a research a about nano tecehonlogy.. AI... high tech stuff.. so those are my interents.. now i am confused because my schoool provides half cs credits(the programming part) and half electical; engineering(the current part) credits and some computer engineering(the hardware part) .. so i am going to post the curriculum for both cs and ce.. this is for Cuny CIty college of new york.. My problem comes down to choosing either computer science or computer engineering.. .. i am a freshman.. and am currently enrolled as a computer science student.. but Now.. that i have been researching about my major i have many confused thoughts.. so if please someone could help me out.. here which carreer would you think that best suits my interests.. i am saying this because my concelour is not able to help me..... i went this morning and they were remodeling his office.. it really urges me to be sure about my carreer.... this is the curriculium for CS [url]http://www-cs.ccny.cuny.edu/academics/undergrad-cs-curriculum.html[/url] and for computer engineering [url]http://www-cs.ccny.cuny.edu/academics/ce/CpE-Fall06.pdf[/url] Posted by: jaeusm [QUOTE]ok let's say i get a ce degree..if i want to have a higher iducation what would that be? a masters in computer engineer? phd is there such a thing..[/QUOTE] Yes. However, take your schooling one step at a time. After you earn your bachelors degree, you may decide you want to pursue graduate education in electrical engineering or maybe computer science. Based on all the things you've said, you'll probably enjoy computer engineering more than computer science. The coursework will be harder (more math), but it encompasses many of the things you have expressed interest in. Posted by: Quantum Bit [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jaeusm [/i] [B]Yes. However, take your schooling one step at a time. After you earn your bachelors degree, you may decide you want to pursue graduate education in electrical engineering or maybe computer science. Based on all the things you've said, you'll probably enjoy computer engineering more than computer science. The coursework will be harder (more math), but it encompasses many of the things you have expressed interest in. [/B][/QUOTE] ???? You are saying there is more math or harder math in computer engineering????????? I do not think so.. all the engineering maths are plug n chug type maths like calculus and diff eq's etc... Computer science maths have a prereq of these, and proofs, abstract algebra, linear algebra, advanced discrete, etccc... I wonder where you have went to school in that respect.. Hopefully your school was accreddited and everything. Posted by: jaeusm It was ABET accredited, but that doesn't mean much. And in my opinion, proofs, linear algebra, discrete math, etc. was easier than calc and differential equations. Posted by: adida948 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jaeusm [/i] [B]It was ABET accredited, but that doesn't mean much. And in my opinion, proofs, linear algebra, discrete math, etc. was easier than calc and differential equations. [/B][/QUOTE] hey now i just got lost... what's abet accredited??? so do you guys think that i am better off pursuing a degree in Computer engineering? vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. 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