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Posted by: TheOtis

Hey guys-

EDIT- I'm pretty sure this is the right place to post this topic, if not, my apologies-

It's been awhile since my last post. I promise this isn't a, "what should I get" post.

Anyway. I guess their are multiple questions I have. So here it goes, follow along if you can, haha.

So I guess my first question is, any idea why they don't make high-def games for PC? I mean aren't LCD HDTV's made with the same technologie as LCD monitors are? High-def games dont require blu-ray or HD-DVD's. So why aren't they made yet?

EDIT: I should probably add that games, IMO, tended to looks better on the 360, this is why I got under the impression they aren't in high-def on PC

I guess this matters to me because, I was a previous owner of a Xbox 360, and I sold it to a buddy of mine because I wasn't very happy with the games that were out for it, (mind you gears of war wasn't out yet) so I sold it back in august.

Now, the PS3 is out, and around here we get shipments in once a week or so. So getting one isn't really a huge problem, it's just not easy.

I have a 32" LG LCD HDTV and I love it. My 360 looked absolutely amazing on it. But I don't get high-def cable and I don't have a blu-ray or hd-dvd player, (because I'm not down for forking out 500+ for one). Anyway, the 360 made me love the high-def "experience".

Now I'm sorry if I'm un-educated in this part. Maybe games are already high-def for computers and I just don't notice it?

When I had my 360, I hooked up my 360 and my computer to my TV. I played need for speed most wanted:blacklist on it from my PC and my 360. I noticed the 360 version looked a good amount better, (and it was playing at 720p).

I also tried this with quake 4, but it looked about the same. And now, playing gears of wars at my buddys house on a SDTV looked amazing, but they don't have it for the PC. If they did, would you think it'd look just as good on the PC?

I'm just torn between a couple things. For the price of a PS3, (I'd get the $500 version, MAYBE the $600), I could get a 8800GTS(I think), that would just be insane. Because, well DX10 is going to be isane, and I think we've all seen crysis haha.

I mean, if you were in my shoes, would you-

A) Get a 8800GTS and another 512MB or mem( I currently have 1.5gigs)

B)PS3 that plays all playstation games, (well that can be debated),plays blu-ray(which might end up becoming the next betamax(which could also be debated)),and can run linux, and has MGS4.

C)Get a 360 and teh HD-DVD add-on(which could also become the next betamax, which is also debateable).


Now keep in mind i'm a HUGE first person shooter fan and race fan simunlation/arcade fan. And I LOVE the metal gear solid franchise.


Haha, ok this did turn into a what should I get post, sorry.hahaha. I also apologise if parts of this didn't make sense, I was up playing need for speed carbon on my computer way too late last night.



Posted by: Trotter

I don't do consoles, so I would go for the 8800 and RAM.



Posted by: TheEnd187

get ps3 xbox360 sux imo ps3 FTW



Posted by: TheMajor

[color=darkred]You can adjust the resolution in most games. You can use way higher resolutions than PS3/Xbox360 in many PC Games.[/color]



Posted by: n30phYte

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TheEnd187 [/i]
[B]get ps3 xbox360 sux imo ps3 FTW [/B][/QUOTE]

Ah, intuitive. :confused:



Posted by: baronvongogo

play the pc games at 1600x1200 or 2048×1536 with settings all on high beats anything, PC`s are always a few steps ahead ;)



Posted by: LU4sTrooper

1. Go for the PC

2. HD is just a term that makes console gamers think they're getting some flashy new technology - it's not, PC's have been using way higher resolutions for years.



Posted by: TheOtis

I see, thanks for the input guys. I've just heard that term HD used ALOT with consoles and was confused why pc games aren't in HD, but now I understand what it means haha.

baronvongogo-

The only problem with that is having a video card that can do that haha.
I tried that in NFS:Carbon, and it didn't work too well with my video card haha.

Also, maybe i should make another thread for this question, I'm sure it's been asked before. But what's the average lifespan for video cards? I got my 7800 GT in oct. of 05 and it can play NFS:carbon at 1152x864 well, but anything above that you really notice a difference in the frame rate.



Posted by: baronvongogo

lifespan as in how long they last before dying could be many years 5+

lifespan as in when you cant play games on high anymore ;) then id say 1 1/2 years maybe 2 at most! that only takes into account if you buy the best at the time such as the 8800GTX now it should last a good year or 2.



Posted by: TheOtis

That's the one thing that gets me about computers, its wayyyy spendy. Im fine with playing them at 1152x864. I just can't keep up with how fast technology advances with computers!

haha ya, lifespan meaning playing games on high settings. I mean that way you get the most out of what you got. But ya, can't say I'll be getting the 8800gtx version, those are like 500 bucks.

I guess that's the one reason why I sort of like consoles, you don't have to keep upgradeing them. It's a one time lump sum and you're set for 4 years or so.



Posted by: killians45

Wow, looks like theend doesn't look at any posts that refute him.



Posted by: TheOtis

Yea, I hooked my PC up to my 32" LG LCD HDTV and played NFS:Carbon at 1024x780(I think that's right), with detail on high, and ya, it looked awesome.

I'd love to play it in 1080p on it, but my TV dosent support 1080 unfortunitly.

EDIT: Yea, pretty sure i've seen "theends" posts before, I take it he dosen't like the 360?haha. Those statesments seriously crack me up. Saying anything "sucks", especially when talking about video games and consoles, makes people sound like they're ten.



Posted by: Danks

I have a PC and an Xbox 360.

Havent touched my PC ever since I got the 360.

If you're into First Person Shooters, Xbox 360 is the way to go. Gears of War (3rd person shooter that plays like a FPS), Halo 3, Call of Duty with Xbox Live will keep you stuck on your TV for quite a while. There is no other Console Online Multiplayer Platform besided Xbox Live.

As for PS3, still pretty new. Nothing really good out atm. PS3 not really big on FPSers but do carry alot of platforms games like Final Fantasy, Metal Gear ect.. so still worth getting.

My advice? Get an Xbox 360. Graphics wise, consoles are not as good but are getting pretty **** close. Quality of games, I'd have to go with Xbox 360. Microsoft is financing/buying out alot of leet game creaters and companies to make games exclusively for the 360. They got the money and it looks like they re doing all the right things with it.

As of the PS3 (Blu-Ray) and 360 (HD-DVD) battle goes. HD-DVD will win. Microsoft, with a year head start, has raced to an early lead with over 6 million Xbox 360 sales to date — this despite not having a Halo title to drive interest. That compared to only 1 million PS3 sold. The numbers that xbox has over PS3 will push HD-DVD techology, leaving Blu-Ray with the title "Next generation Lazer Disc". As cost of production for the 360 decreases, they will slash the price of the game console. Next year, we could see the 360 for $199. Then they start bundling the zune into it, say $360+zune+1 yr free music subscription for $400. PS3 is loosing profit even though thier console is already over priced...



Posted by: TheOtis

Hey danks-

I had a 360 for about 3 months. But i sold it to a buddy of mine, (at the time, gears of war wasnt out). And I that's what i'm looking for, exclusives.

I guess I'm just getting kind of tired of dumpings hundreds of dollars into my computer every 5-6 months or so. Games, like Crysis, are pushing computers farther and farther. And you have to keep upgradeing to keep up.

But the life of consoles are short. Graphics wise, they're out of date fairly quickly. Although they are just now tapping into the full potential of the 360 a year after it's release, it's not quite on par with computer games.

Anyone know if UT2007 will be out for the 360? I think i'm going to google that and find out. I'm really big on FPS. So halo 3, gears of war, and UT2007, does make it appealing to get a 360 again.

Plus HD-DVD's are already selling better then blu-ray, ( I think I read it from gamepro or tomshardware, I can get the link if anyones interested). So blu-ray could be killing the PS3. Sure games can definetly take advantage of the disk space blu-ray's provide, but if blu-ray becomes the next betamax, it could hurt the PS3, and make people like myself not want to fork over 500-600 for one.



Posted by: Danks

I was acutally in the same shoe as you.

Brother gave me a 360 about 2 months ago for my birthday. Knowing the PS3 was coming out very soon I almost opted to sell the 360 and wait for a PS3.

Already bored of WoW, I decided to sell my account, and keep my 360, then bought Madden 07, NBA Live, and Call of Duty 2, and halo 2 (360 is backward compatible with the old xbox titles).

Those game would of been mediocre on other systems, but after I subscribed to Xbox Live, everything changed. You really have to try it to know what im talking about.

Then Gears of War came out and it just blew me away.



Posted by: TheOtis

Yea, I had xbox live myself, it was pretty sick. I played test drive unlimited alot. I played alot of quake 4, test drive, PGR3, and NFS:MW.

Just last night I played Gears of War at my buddys, it looked pretty sick and was way fun. Yea, all that makes me want to get one again haha. Plus the HD-DVD add-on would be sick. Especialyl since I have a HDTV, but have nothing to watch in high-def but my computer games. It'd be nice to watch HD movies.

The reason I sold my 360 was because, at the time I wasn't that impressed as far as game selection went. Games are 60 bucks and werent too many that interested me that were out. And I rented every game they had at Blockbuster atleast once.

Maybe I'll consider getting one again now that their are more games for it.





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